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The context is that professors are increasingly vulnerable to being fired based on the political whims of students. There have been a few cases at Yale recently

by sdwr 3y ago

The context is that professors are increasingly vulnerable to being fired based on the political whims of students. There have been a few cases at Yale recently: - the Halloween thing - a teacher who wanted to let that right-wing hack Yiannopolos speak (free speech) - and I feel like there was one more about gender politics You can argue the actual politics or who started what, but what I'm seeing is a lack of respect. Challenging ideas is all well and good, but what puts it over the line is threatening people's careers over them.

wolverine876 3y ago
Interestingly, there are other issues of censorship going the other way, particulary Yale giving in to right-wing donors. Would you agree that all forms are wrong? Then we have a coalition with the power to protect speech. > - a teacher who wanted to let that right-wing hack Yiannopolos speak (free speech) Must they let everyone speak? What about people with nothing valuable to say? What about people who spew hate? People who generally encourage violence and hate? (I think we can agree that direct incitement to violence should be banned.) I think it's important to lean heavily toward more speech, but there may be lines. Also, Yale is there to provide education and the best knowledge, not an equal opportunity platform for BS.
- nec4b 3y ago
  >>Must they let everyone speak? Is somebody forcing anyone to listen? You don't have to go to every speech hosted on a faculty premises. >>What about people with nothing valuable to say? I don't think much of what you posted here is of particular value, yet I would not dream of forbidding others to not read your posts.
  - scrubs 3y ago
    Agreed. Moreover here's what I want to see and hear more about: for any position that a student feels is extremely wrong, go to the lecture and defeat the argument! Winning isn't cancelling. Winning is getting the other side to stumble, and reconsider.
- eli_gottlieb 3y ago
  >Must they let everyone speak? Everyone invited by faculty, yes.

by sdwr 3y ago

wolverine876 3y ago

Interestingly, there are other issues of censorship going the other way, particulary Yale giving in to right-wing donors. Would you agree that all forms are wrong? Then we have a coalition with the power to protect speech. > - a teacher who wanted to let that right-wing hack Yiannopolos speak (free speech) Must they let everyone speak? What about people with nothing valuable to say? What about people who spew hate? People who generally encourage violence and hate? (I think we can agree that direct incitement to violence should be banned.) I think it's important to lean heavily toward more speech, but there may be lines. Also, Yale is there to provide education and the best knowledge, not an equal opportunity platform for BS.

nec4b 3y ago
>>Must they let everyone speak? Is somebody forcing anyone to listen? You don't have to go to every speech hosted on a faculty premises. >>What about people with nothing valuable to say? I don't think much of what you posted here is of particular value, yet I would not dream of forbidding others to not read your posts.
- scrubs 3y ago
  Agreed. Moreover here's what I want to see and hear more about: for any position that a student feels is extremely wrong, go to the lecture and defeat the argument! Winning isn't cancelling. Winning is getting the other side to stumble, and reconsider.
eli_gottlieb 3y ago
>Must they let everyone speak? Everyone invited by faculty, yes.