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Mind listing out the countries, and how one goes about becoming a citizenship collector? My parents sacrificed an incredible deal to come to the US. For the li

Mind listing out the countries, and how one goes about becoming a citizenship collector? My parents sacrificed an incredible deal to come to the US. For the life of me I can't comprehend why someone would do this. Loss of citizenship is permanent. Your kids lose it as well. Why would derek would do this to his kids.

secure1234 14y ago
His wife has dual citizenships in the U.S./India.
- mih 14y ago
  India does not allow dual citizenships. Rather people of Indian origin get the equivalent of a lifetime visa should they choose to be citizens of other countries, but this can be in no way equated with citizenship.
- dangoor 14y ago
  My wife is Indian with US citizenship. As far as we've been able to tell, India does not allow dual citizenship (a quick google turns up many references to this, including Wikipedia). An Indian who becomes a US citizen can become an "Overseas Citizen of India" (OCI) which is not exactly the same as citizenship (you can't vote in India on that status, for example)
- secure1234 14y ago
  I heard that she's Indian, so she might just be a citizen there.
- deleted 14y ago
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jarek 14y ago
> For the life of me I can't comprehend why someone would do this. Loss of citizenship is permanent. Your kids lose it as well. Why would derek would do this to his kids. Maybe he doesn't want his kids to have to deal with the U.S. I.R.S. every year of their life, regardless of whether or not they live in the U.S.? Just one of the possible reasons.
- doktrin 14y ago
  That seems implausible. If anything, maybe he doesn't want to deal with the IRS for the rest of his life. After all, it's not a burden on his children until they begin collecting income. If the concern is really for the children, it would be more pragmatic to give them sufficient time to make up their own mind.
- _delirium 14y ago
  His kids will now be forced to do two years of mandatory military service in the Singapore army, though, and in addition, must remain in the army reserves and attend annual refresher training until the age of 40. I'd consider that considerably worse than dealing with the IRS once a year.
  - jarek 14y ago
    Valid point, but the Singaporean citizenship or residence being more onerous does not invaluate U.S. tax laws as a reason to drop U.S. citizenship.
  - woe 14y ago
    You seem to be assuming that his children have acquired Singaporean nationality. We don't know that this is the case.
- woe 14y ago
  > Your kids lose it as well. No. Parents cannot, under any circumstance, renounce US citizenship on their childrens' behalf. If they gained citizenship at birth, they can only lose it by their own actions.
tzs 14y ago
According to his blog, as of last year he had moved to Singapore and it appeared he intended that to be his permanent home. Perhaps he has decided to obtain Singapore citizenship? Singapore requires those who obtain naturalized citizenship there to renounce all other citizenships they hold.

secure1234 14y ago

His wife has dual citizenships in the U.S./India.

mih 14y ago
India does not allow dual citizenships. Rather people of Indian origin get the equivalent of a lifetime visa should they choose to be citizens of other countries, but this can be in no way equated with citizenship.
dangoor 14y ago
My wife is Indian with US citizenship. As far as we've been able to tell, India does not allow dual citizenship (a quick google turns up many references to this, including Wikipedia). An Indian who becomes a US citizen can become an "Overseas Citizen of India" (OCI) which is not exactly the same as citizenship (you can't vote in India on that status, for example)
secure1234 14y ago
I heard that she's Indian, so she might just be a citizen there.
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jarek 14y ago

> For the life of me I can't comprehend why someone would do this. Loss of citizenship is permanent. Your kids lose it as well. Why would derek would do this to his kids. Maybe he doesn't want his kids to have to deal with the U.S. I.R.S. every year of their life, regardless of whether or not they live in the U.S.? Just one of the possible reasons.

doktrin 14y ago
That seems implausible. If anything, maybe he doesn't want to deal with the IRS for the rest of his life. After all, it's not a burden on his children until they begin collecting income. If the concern is really for the children, it would be more pragmatic to give them sufficient time to make up their own mind.
_delirium 14y ago
His kids will now be forced to do two years of mandatory military service in the Singapore army, though, and in addition, must remain in the army reserves and attend annual refresher training until the age of 40. I'd consider that considerably worse than dealing with the IRS once a year.
- jarek 14y ago
  Valid point, but the Singaporean citizenship or residence being more onerous does not invaluate U.S. tax laws as a reason to drop U.S. citizenship.
- woe 14y ago
  You seem to be assuming that his children have acquired Singaporean nationality. We don't know that this is the case.
woe 14y ago
> Your kids lose it as well. No. Parents cannot, under any circumstance, renounce US citizenship on their childrens' behalf. If they gained citizenship at birth, they can only lose it by their own actions.

tzs 14y ago

According to his blog, as of last year he had moved to Singapore and it appeared he intended that to be his permanent home. Perhaps he has decided to obtain Singapore citizenship? Singapore requires those who obtain naturalized citizenship there to renounce all other citizenships they hold.