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The best example of this is the macOS document proxies. They were a sensical representation of an icon you can drag and drop, now they are hidden under a hover

The best example of this is the macOS document proxies. They were a sensical representation of an icon you can drag and drop, now they are hidden under a hover of the title that stupidly animates it out. Anybody would would make a critical productivity feature a hidden hover should be canned from a UX team. This choice was defended by Alan Dye.

pimlottc 3y ago
Sorry, what are document proxies? EDIT: Oh, is this it? [0]. I can't say I ever noticed that before (when it still existed) 0: https://osxdaily.com/2014/08/20/open-files-new-app-proxy-icon-mac-os-x/ https://osxdaily.com/2014/08/20/open-files-new-app-proxy-ico...
- uxamanda 3y ago
  Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I just tried that flow with a Pages document and it still works in Sonoma. Drag the icon from the header, drop into an email. Now I'm curious what the old feature was.
  - tomjakubowski 3y ago
    What's changed is that newer versions of the OS hide the file proxy icon by default. You have to hover the cursor over the title for a second to see it, or to interact with it. Before, it was always visible, and ready to be clicked + dragged.
    - nudgeee 3y ago
      I think there’s an option somewhere to enable it, but yeah annoying it’s not default.
      - uxamanda 3y ago
        Ah maybe I changed this setting at some point and don't remember. It is always there for me, not only on hover.
        nudgeee 3y ago
        Likewise, I think I enabled an option to always show it. Its under System Settings → Accessibility → Display → Show window title icons
- badsectoracula 3y ago
  This is a feature i miss from macOS - perhaps the feature i miss most from macOS. Beyond drag-and-dropping you could also right click (or something similar, don't remember, i used macOS years ago) the icon and you'd get a popup menu with the directory hierarchy under which the file was stored - clicking on any of the menu options would open that directory in Finder. This is the sort of integrated functionality you get when the OS, the application framework and the core applications that come with the OS are all written with each other in mind.

pimlottc 3y ago

Sorry, what are document proxies? EDIT: Oh, is this it? [0]. I can't say I ever noticed that before (when it still existed) 0: https://osxdaily.com/2014/08/20/open-files-new-app-proxy-icon-mac-os-x/ https://osxdaily.com/2014/08/20/open-files-new-app-proxy-ico...

uxamanda 3y ago
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I just tried that flow with a Pages document and it still works in Sonoma. Drag the icon from the header, drop into an email. Now I'm curious what the old feature was.
- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  What's changed is that newer versions of the OS hide the file proxy icon by default. You have to hover the cursor over the title for a second to see it, or to interact with it. Before, it was always visible, and ready to be clicked + dragged.
  - nudgeee 3y ago
    I think there’s an option somewhere to enable it, but yeah annoying it’s not default.
    - uxamanda 3y ago
      Ah maybe I changed this setting at some point and don't remember. It is always there for me, not only on hover.
      - nudgeee 3y ago
        Likewise, I think I enabled an option to always show it. Its under System Settings → Accessibility → Display → Show window title icons
badsectoracula 3y ago
This is a feature i miss from macOS - perhaps the feature i miss most from macOS. Beyond drag-and-dropping you could also right click (or something similar, don't remember, i used macOS years ago) the icon and you'd get a popup menu with the directory hierarchy under which the file was stored - clicking on any of the menu options would open that directory in Finder. This is the sort of integrated functionality you get when the OS, the application framework and the core applications that come with the OS are all written with each other in mind.