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I didn't say it's useless, I said it's a niche utility. There are, what, 10 even slightly commonly used shells? Compared to the thousands of other programs tha
by tsimionescu 3y ago
I didn't say it's useless, I said it's a niche utility. There are, what, 10 even slightly commonly used shells?
Compared to the thousands of other programs that spawn processes, I think shells count as a niche use.
If fork() and exec() had been kept as the niche utilities they are in addition to a more commonly used spawn() syscall, fork() and exec() could have remained simple and small, and not needed all the CoW magic and many other complex features at all.
- hawski 3y agoI wonder now if one could emulate fork-shenanigans-exec by: - clone CLONE_FILES with AF_UNIX socketpair - send file descriptors through the socket - do whatever was in shenanigans (you have the socket for communication/RPC/whatever) - exec or maybe even easier: - clone CLONE_FILES with pipe or two - do whatever was in shenanigans (you have the pipe for communication/RPC/whatever) - exec