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GenZ treat employers like bad dates 93% ghost interviews 87% don't show for work
- pvdoom 3y agoThe kids are alright
- pk-protect-ai 3y agoYeap. that's how it should be.
- 0xEF 3y agoThis is not a trait exclusive to Gen Z and I think the author of the article just wanted to be inflammatory, as they tend to do when pointing out these perceived generational differences. The manufacturing industry I work in has a distinct lack of Gen Z applicants. Those that do apply tend to be 35+ and about half of them either don't show up for the interview or last about week and vanish. I work between three shops and there's a single Gen Z'er that I know of. He's someone's younger brother and seems temporary while he finishes school. What none of these article authors seem to want to expose is how employers dug themselves into this situation by treating their workforce as a disposable commodity. If Gen Z is really ghosting as much as this article implies (for which I have seen zero evidence of in my Gen Z son and his friends, who all work) then I would question why Millennials and Gen X didn't do the same because let's face it; employers thinking we need them more than they need us is not a new problem by any stretch of the imagination.
- speff 3y agoI can think of a reason this problem is limited to GenZ: Millenials/X are more likely to be responsible for dependents or a house.
- benterix 3y agoIf this is true (I would think it might be) it leads to an interesting questions: when the decisive moment comes, will they choose long-time relationships and property or freedom?
- silverquiet 3y agoJudging by the precipitous declines in fertility, freedom seems like the most common choice. That's where I came down myself.
- phone8675309 3y agoThis is not a choice for many younger millennials and almost all gen-zers: ownership of property is mostly unobtainable to them. Big "my bank says I can't afford $1200 a month for a mortgage so I pay $1750 a month in rent" energy
- tiahura 3y agoEvery way of measuring suggests that Gen Z struggles with long term thinking and deferred gratification, so which do you think they’ll choose?
- sunshinerag 3y agoYou mean deferred pain. ? How are you sure there is gratification at end?
- benterix 3y agoWhat do you mean by "deferred" pain? It's not like you can have illnesses, old age and death first so that you can enjoy your youth and middle age comfortably.
- speff 3y agoIt's interesting that you would frame it as freedom rather than financial independence. Neither my wife nor my house has ever felt like a shackle to me.
- happymellon 3y agoEmployers treat everyone like bad dates. 93% ghost interviewees, although I would say that the number that interview and have then started to lead on either myself or someone I know before ghosting is probably higher. 87% randomly terminate employees, not based upon performance. Hopefully they are not surprised when they get treated with contempt, but apparently it's only about 30% on employers who recognise that they treat the workforce badly.
- deaddodo 3y agoI always love these corporate PR posts. "No one is loyal to us anymore, boohoo"...as if it started with the employees or as if 100,000 tech workers just decided overnight to be overemployed and quit.
- happymellon 3y agoGoogle Lays Off Thousands More Employees Despite Record Profits https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-lays-off-thousands-more-210822278.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-lays-off-thousands-mor... > No one is loyal to us anymore, boohoo Indeed, trust goes both ways.
- CommanderData 3y agoHopefully it doesn't change until employers start valuing the workforce less like a commodity.
- jacknews 3y agotouché
- benterix 3y agoI regularly see job postings for my position at rates that are 30-35% of what I earn. They don't disappear, I wonder if they are just harvesting personal data. In any case, I was once entertain the idea to apply just to see what kind of people they are and what conditions potential employees have to work under.
- 000ooo000 3y ago>job ghosting is rife, Oh no! >..with 75% of workers Wow! >..saying they’ve ignored a prospective employer in the past year. Oh.. who cares.
- robbyiq999 3y agoWell, start paying the check when the dinner bill comes!
- Mountain_Skies 3y agoPosting jobs the company has no intention of filling should be considered felony fraud and prosecuted as such. It'll only take a couple of prosecutions before HR and hiring managers lose interest in playing that game. You don't even have to make the definition expansive; it can be narrowly focused, and most will still be unwilling to take the risk as whatever benefit they're currently receiving from it is magnitudes smaller than what they're stealing from candidates. For those who think that's a bit excessive, consider the value of the cumulative time wasted by job applicants for positions that don't exist. If you embezzled that much money from your employer, it would be a felony. If an employer does it to job candidates, it's all honky-dory. It doesn't matter if the value to the employer was small, the value stolen was large.
- pjc50 3y agoAbsolutely impossible to prove, though. It's really just in the same category as phishing/spam. (AI will of course make this worse on both sides)
- gdulli 3y agoAnd in this scenario is it also a felony for applicants to interview for jobs they have no intention of taking? Consider the value of the cumulative time wasted by employers.
- milesvp 3y agoEmployers can afford to waste time. It’s their business. There has always been an asymmetry between employment seekers and employment offerers. It’s rare that a company will lose it’s lease when a job interview turns out to be a waste of time. But homelessness can be a real outcome for a seeker.
- gdulli 3y agoBill Gates can afford to be stolen from. But the legal system operates on principles, not vibes.
- JohnClark1337 3y agoAnyone who has looked for a job knows the feeling of going through an interview and then never hearing back from the company. It's fine when the company wastes your time, but never ok when you waste the company's time.
- thiago_fm 3y agoHope that the new generation Z won't become slaves to work like we millenials, gen X's and so on are. Well, not so much slaves to work, but get so little leeway from corporations that own us. It's not like we like it. We need a shift in our relationship with employers and they will help us.
- calamari4065 3y agoI mean, when 99.999% of jobs I apply to ghost me and 95% ghost me after the first interview, what do you expect? Newsflash: boomers treating everyone with complete contempt and disregard get feelings hurt when treated the way they treat others. Boo fucking hoo.
- ben_w 3y agoI'm old enough to remember when the newspaper polemics were about how this new cartoon character of Bart Simpson indicated that GenX was strange and mysterious and didn't show enough respect for their parents. That was Boomers complaining. These days, the majority of Boomers have reached state pension age, so they're probably not part of this specific issue.
- prettywoman 3y ago[dead]