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> Throw in the Oxford comma and George has become a policeman: “Through the window she saw George, a policeman, and several onlookers”. The problem here might
by murphyslab 3y ago
> Throw in the Oxford comma and George has become a policeman: “Through the window she saw George, a policeman, and several onlookers”.
The problem here might also be that of artificially limiting the solution to commas. We have alternative or better punctuation available to demarcate the interrupting thought. One could emphasize the relationship better either with an em dash or with parentheses:
“Through the window she saw George — a policeman — and several onlookers.”
“Through the window she saw George (a policeman) and several onlookers.”
In text either of those could better express the different emphasis which verbally would be conveyed by a shift in the speaker's tone.
- stouset 3y agoSince we’re being pedantic, canonically you aren’t supposed to separate an em dash with spaces. I assume that’s because typographically it already sets the parenthetical somewhat farther apart than a regular space would. “Through the window she saw George—a policeman—and several onlookers.”
- wolverine876 3y ago> you aren’t supposed to In the world of grammar, these words are always a shot at your own toes. I'm missing a few myself and I learned: always specify a domain or a source. The AP Style Manual, the bible of grammer for journalism (at least in the US), says to put spaces around the dash. However, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39436513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39436513
- xeonmc 3y agoNo, there should never be spaces around Em-dashes, while for En-dashes they are situational---spaced if being used in lieu of Em-dashes, and unspaced if used as ranges (e.g. 1938--1945) or comparisons (e.g. Blue--Red Dichotomy)
- wolverine876 3y agoWhat basis do you have for saying that, and for refuting the AP Style Manual? Are you claiming it says otherwise?
- xeonmc 3y agoYou might be unaware that there are three types of dashes. For grammatical connections, you choose only one of the following and stick with it - Em dash: unspaced - En dash: spaced For relations, it is always unspaced En dash
- wolverine876 3y agoDo you see what I'm writing? Does it seem I'm unaware? There are even more such marks. Still no source for your claim. Why do you think these things are true, and that always flawed claim, universally true?