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Would be great to have the option to download this in full before the C&D hits.

by itisit 3y ago

dekken_ 3y ago
> DISCLAIMER: BorgRemastered.com is a fan preservation project; it was created for experimentation, education & research, is completely nonprofit, and should be considered fair use as stated in the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. section 107. It is not an official product and it should not be sold nor bought. BorgRemastered.com is intended for free private use and any sale or for-profit use is prohibited. from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw
- stonogo 3y ago
  nothing about that will stop a cease and desist.
  - dekken_ 3y ago
    I didn't say it did, just pointing out the attempt to preempt
- somerandomqaguy 3y ago
  CBS can still potentially send a cease and desist letter. Star Trek Stage 9 got shutdown even though it was clearly labelled as a non commercial and generated no revenue. There was speculation because the Star Trek: Bridge Crew DLC was coming out which CBS was afraid that Stage 9 would outclass it, but who knows what goes on in the minds of CBS lawyers. Good thing about it is that the team that worked on Stage 9 moved onto a recreation of the Orville now.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    > Good thing about it is that the team that worked on Stage 9 moved onto a recreation of the Orville now. They did a stellar job on this (which makes me double-plus pissed at CBS, knowing how good their Enterprise-D recreation could've been). Unfortunately, Seth MacFarlane seems to be doing less than stellar job at keeping the Orville going for now.
    - ndjdbdjdbev 3y ago
      Season 3 ooses depression from every pore ...not sure it that make co.plete sense but yeah it was tough to watch
      - fortyseven 3y ago
        It felt like S3 forgot it was a comedy, and it tried too hard to be Real Trek. (Not to mention I kind of hate the crew now for what they did to Gordon in that time travel episode.)
        TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Yeah, IMO S2 had the right balance of comedy-to-drama, being a little more light-hearted Real Trek. A lifeline in times where we had no proper Trek.
- chungy 3y ago
  Lifting an entire game could in no way be considered fair use. That will never pass.
  - paulgerhardt 3y ago
    Discussed previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18673076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18673076
    - arp242 3y ago
      That is about the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA, not fair use.
  - lathiat 3y ago
    While true, Star Trek does have some history of tolerating fan productions to a certain extent. This probably wouldn't qualify but they tolerate more than average.
- deleted 3y ago
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anthk 3y ago
How come BSD trek and the rest of the implementations (several even under PD) never got an issue?
- simmons 3y ago
  A niche mainframe game from 1971, and its successors like BSD Trek, were flying way below the radar of any lawyers back then. Even through the early/mid-80's, developers took great liberties with IP and largely got away with it. (Regard the "Prisoner" game from 1980 [1].) I remember buying a C64 port of Trek off the shelf at Target in the mid-80s which was clearly not licensed. I don't think anyone could get away with that today. :) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(video_game)#Differences_between_the_TV_series_and_the_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(video_game)#Diff...
- acheron 3y ago
  EGA Trek for DOS got a sternly-worded letter. Later versions had “USS Lexington” fighting the “Mongols”, rather than the Enterprise and Klingons.
  - rightbyte 3y ago
    Wasn't the Klingons some reminiscence of Mongols in the original encounter? They had like cliché Mongol beards, and were classic Star Trek "human"-aliens with like 12 toes or something they never showed anyways.

Would be great to have the option to download this in full before the C&D hits.

by itisit 3y ago

Would be great to have the option to download this in full before the C&D hits.

> DISCLAIMER: BorgRemastered.com is a fan preservation project; it was created for experimentation, education & research, is completely nonprofit, and should be considered fair use as stated in the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. section 107. It is not an official product and it should not be sold nor bought. BorgRemastered.com is intended for free private use and any sale or for-profit use is prohibited. from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw

stonogo 3y ago
nothing about that will stop a cease and desist.
- dekken_ 3y ago
  I didn't say it did, just pointing out the attempt to preempt
somerandomqaguy 3y ago
CBS can still potentially send a cease and desist letter. Star Trek Stage 9 got shutdown even though it was clearly labelled as a non commercial and generated no revenue. There was speculation because the Star Trek: Bridge Crew DLC was coming out which CBS was afraid that Stage 9 would outclass it, but who knows what goes on in the minds of CBS lawyers. Good thing about it is that the team that worked on Stage 9 moved onto a recreation of the Orville now.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  > Good thing about it is that the team that worked on Stage 9 moved onto a recreation of the Orville now. They did a stellar job on this (which makes me double-plus pissed at CBS, knowing how good their Enterprise-D recreation could've been). Unfortunately, Seth MacFarlane seems to be doing less than stellar job at keeping the Orville going for now.
  - ndjdbdjdbev 3y ago
    Season 3 ooses depression from every pore ...not sure it that make co.plete sense but yeah it was tough to watch
    - fortyseven 3y ago
      It felt like S3 forgot it was a comedy, and it tried too hard to be Real Trek. (Not to mention I kind of hate the crew now for what they did to Gordon in that time travel episode.)
      - TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Yeah, IMO S2 had the right balance of comedy-to-drama, being a little more light-hearted Real Trek. A lifeline in times where we had no proper Trek.
chungy 3y ago
Lifting an entire game could in no way be considered fair use. That will never pass.
- paulgerhardt 3y ago
  Discussed previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18673076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18673076
  - arp242 3y ago
    That is about the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA, not fair use.
- lathiat 3y ago
  While true, Star Trek does have some history of tolerating fan productions to a certain extent. This probably wouldn't qualify but they tolerate more than average.
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anthk 3y ago

How come BSD trek and the rest of the implementations (several even under PD) never got an issue?

simmons 3y ago
A niche mainframe game from 1971, and its successors like BSD Trek, were flying way below the radar of any lawyers back then. Even through the early/mid-80's, developers took great liberties with IP and largely got away with it. (Regard the "Prisoner" game from 1980 [1].) I remember buying a C64 port of Trek off the shelf at Target in the mid-80s which was clearly not licensed. I don't think anyone could get away with that today. :) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(video_game)#Differences_between_the_TV_series_and_the_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(video_game)#Diff...
acheron 3y ago
EGA Trek for DOS got a sternly-worded letter. Later versions had “USS Lexington” fighting the “Mongols”, rather than the Enterprise and Klingons.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Wasn't the Klingons some reminiscence of Mongols in the original encounter? They had like cliché Mongol beards, and were classic Star Trek "human"-aliens with like 12 toes or something they never showed anyways.