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I've seen a lot of Citroen in the EU, particularly in the UK & Ireland. Never seen any in the US (where I live), which makes sense -- https://www.citroen.co.u

I've seen a lot of Citroen in the EU, particularly in the UK & Ireland. Never seen any in the US (where I live), which makes sense -- https://www.citroen.co.uk/about-citroen/citroen-in-a-few-figures.html https://www.citroen.co.uk/about-citroen/citroen-in-a-few-fig...

Archelaos 3y ago
It is perhaps noteworthy in this context that a lot of the new world and old world car companies such as Citroën are now part of Netherland based Stellantis.[1] So in a way a Jeep is now a Dutch car. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis#Brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis#Brands
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  Putting the HQ in the Netherlands was more like a compromise between the French and the Italians. It’s really not a Dutch company in any real way
- Someone 3y ago
  Dutch because of the tax regime. Other famous ‘Dutch’ companies: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_IKEA_Holding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_IKEA_Holding: “Inter IKEA Holding B.V. (also known as Inter IKEA Group) is a holding company registered in the Netherlands” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus: “Airbus' headquarters are registered in Leiden, Netherlands, but daily management is conducted from the company's main office, located in Blagnac, near Toulouse, France.” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipton_Teas_and_Infusions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipton_Teas_and_Infusions: “Lipton Teas and Infusions is an American-British private company based in Rotterdam, Netherlands, that produces tea and other herbal drinks.”
- sofixa 3y ago
  Eh, Jeep was an Italian car (FCA, the result of Fiat buying Chrysler's remains) and is now a Franco-Italian car (FCA and PSA(Citroen , Peugeot, Opel) merged to form Stellantis, registered in the Netherlands, like Airbus, for the taxes and neutrality) manufactured in the US for the American market.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    What neutrality? NL is a EU and NATO member. You're probably thinking of Switzerland. It's taxes all the way.
    - sofixa 3y ago
      Neutrality as in there's no bias to any of the countries of the originally merged companies. If Stellantis were incorporated in France, apart from the higher taxes, there'd be an obvious bias towards the former PSA in France over Fiat in Italy.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        >Neutrality as in there's no bias to any of the countries of the originally merged companies. Who cares about that anyway? Multinational corporations have no national allegiance anyway. They only care about profit and shareholder returns. They set up offices wherever the get the best deals, as in lowest taxes and cheapest labor. Austria would have also been a "neutral" country in this case. Why didn't they HQ there and instead chose the NL? Let me see .. checks note .. yeah it's just the much lower corporate taxes and nothing else.
        sofixa 3y ago
        > Who cares about that anyway? Multinational corporations have no national allegiance anyway You obviously haven't considered the fact that both Italy and France are highly protective of their industries. Italy's PM was recently publicly complaining about Stellantis not putting enough of their manufacturing in Italy.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I know. I used to work for them. They already have offices in Italy and in France. But ask yourself why didn't they HQ there and instead in NL that has no automotive industry? I'm sure the lowest corporate taxes in the EU have nothing to do with that.

Archelaos 3y ago

It is perhaps noteworthy in this context that a lot of the new world and old world car companies such as Citroën are now part of Netherland based Stellantis.[1] So in a way a Jeep is now a Dutch car. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis#Brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis#Brands

ffgjgf1 3y ago
Putting the HQ in the Netherlands was more like a compromise between the French and the Italians. It’s really not a Dutch company in any real way
Someone 3y ago
Dutch because of the tax regime. Other famous ‘Dutch’ companies: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_IKEA_Holding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_IKEA_Holding: “Inter IKEA Holding B.V. (also known as Inter IKEA Group) is a holding company registered in the Netherlands” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus: “Airbus' headquarters are registered in Leiden, Netherlands, but daily management is conducted from the company's main office, located in Blagnac, near Toulouse, France.” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipton_Teas_and_Infusions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipton_Teas_and_Infusions: “Lipton Teas and Infusions is an American-British private company based in Rotterdam, Netherlands, that produces tea and other herbal drinks.”
sofixa 3y ago
Eh, Jeep was an Italian car (FCA, the result of Fiat buying Chrysler's remains) and is now a Franco-Italian car (FCA and PSA(Citroen , Peugeot, Opel) merged to form Stellantis, registered in the Netherlands, like Airbus, for the taxes and neutrality) manufactured in the US for the American market.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  What neutrality? NL is a EU and NATO member. You're probably thinking of Switzerland. It's taxes all the way.
  - sofixa 3y ago
    Neutrality as in there's no bias to any of the countries of the originally merged companies. If Stellantis were incorporated in France, apart from the higher taxes, there'd be an obvious bias towards the former PSA in France over Fiat in Italy.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      >Neutrality as in there's no bias to any of the countries of the originally merged companies. Who cares about that anyway? Multinational corporations have no national allegiance anyway. They only care about profit and shareholder returns. They set up offices wherever the get the best deals, as in lowest taxes and cheapest labor. Austria would have also been a "neutral" country in this case. Why didn't they HQ there and instead chose the NL? Let me see .. checks note .. yeah it's just the much lower corporate taxes and nothing else.
      - sofixa 3y ago
        > Who cares about that anyway? Multinational corporations have no national allegiance anyway You obviously haven't considered the fact that both Italy and France are highly protective of their industries. Italy's PM was recently publicly complaining about Stellantis not putting enough of their manufacturing in Italy.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I know. I used to work for them. They already have offices in Italy and in France. But ask yourself why didn't they HQ there and instead in NL that has no automotive industry? I'm sure the lowest corporate taxes in the EU have nothing to do with that.