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Meta warns it may shut Facebook in EU, EU leaders say life 'good' without (2022)

• mtmail 3y ago
  Note the date: 07/02/2022
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• dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  As an EU citizen I can only approve. But yeah seeing at that was 2022, it seems EU called their bluff.
  • betaby 3y ago
    Approve what? Meta forcing you to use their products?
    • dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
      Having Facebook shut down in the EU.
  • Calvin02 3y ago
    I realize this is old, but you’d think the HN commenters would ask the obvious: “what will fill the gap”? The human need to connect isn’t going away. Hint: Twitter, TikTok, VK-variant, or some government supported social network. With Russia and China vying for influence, they’ll likely want to do everything possible to influence the replacements. It is unlikely that Victor Orban wouldn’t also want some control and tilt the scale in favor of something he controls. I really wish Meta pulls out of EU.
    • dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
      An array of smaller networks would be great, with interoperability. The fact that Big Tech exploits network effects is a very negative outcome, but most people don't realise it. Maybe the EU could experiment with "personal data interoperability" to promote a counterbalance to network effects. Haven't really thought this through, but it would be nice for the web to work this way generally and promoting competition instead of being tied to these large corporations.
    • infotainment 3y ago
      Ideally, laws would be written such that the only thing that could fill that gap would be real life social interaction. Social media is, ipso facto, a bad thing.
      • Calvin02 3y ago
        > Ideally, laws would be written such that the only thing that could fill that gap would be real life social interaction. I would love to hear a proposal around this. As an immigrant in the US, “social media” is my connection not only to people back home but also to my friends from junior high, high school, and college. > Social media is, ipso facto, a bad thing. It would be great if you could define what is social media. Are chat threads social media? What about iMessage groups? What about various online? What about Digg / Reddit / 4chan?
        • infotainment 3y ago
          Great point, the distinction between what is and isn't social media is absolutely quite grey. There are definitely people who would be better than me at defining it in a legal way, but my general take would be start asking questions like: * Is there algorithmically driven engagement / content discovery? * What is the size of the community? * Is there anonymous interaction? Chat threads in general are, I believe, acceptable, as they chiefly involve small groups of people who know each other. Digg / Reddit / 4Chan / Twitter / Instagram would all be banned, as they facilitate interaction between large groups of people who don't know each other.
• twisteriffic 3y ago
  Don't threaten me with a good time.
  • theropost 3y ago
    Haha. Wow that sounds like paradise, I haven't been on Facebook for years but people around me are and I always look at them and think to myself... what the strange world you live in.
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• tills13 3y ago
  Oh no! ...anyways...
• jqpabc123 3y ago
  My personal goal is to become the last person in my age group to never have had a Facebook account --- 20 years and counting.