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This fall I bought a 7700X with an MSI motherboard through a Microcenter bundle. The board came out in late 2022 and the firmware is still atrocious. I found

This fall I bought a 7700X with an MSI motherboard through a Microcenter bundle. The board came out in late 2022 and the firmware is still atrocious. I found a single release from August last year that is actually stable, anything newer causes significant problems. Failure to POST level problems. If Intel can return to competitiveness without just dumping 300 watts* into a CPU I'll be switching back next time. [*] https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/intels-300w-core-i9-14900k-cpu-review-benchmarks-gaming-power https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/intels-300w-core-i9-14900k-cpu-...

Filligree 3y ago
No issues with Gigabyte boards, across several machines. Are you sure this isn't just an MSI problem?
- duffyjp 3y ago
  I have a sample size of one, so I really couldn't say. Problems with long boot times, Expo causing BSOD, context restore not working etc appear very widespread on the AM5 platform by what I'm seeing online. Are you on AM5? My kids' AM4 board is a Gigabyte, and my friend has two AM4 MSI boards and they're all working fine.
  - mldbk 3y ago
    I am on AM5 (Asus TUF B650M PLUS Wifi) and I am rock solid at 6200/CL28 with HYNIX A die 64GB. CPU is 7800X3D and GPU 7900XT. I was able to enable context restore and cold boot happens in 13-16 seconds straight to the desktop.
  - Filligree 3y ago
    AM5, yes. I was happy with an Asus board for the duration of AM4, but given recent events I decided to switch.
    - wing-_-nuts 3y ago
      Sorry, what recent events? I was under the impression that ASUS was one of the better board / gpu manufacturers?
      - duffyjp 3y ago
        Not who you asked, but Asus was in the news last year for overvolting the CPUs on their AM5 boards killing both the CPU and motherboard itself.
        Filligree 3y ago
        That's the one. I know it's rare, but I saw a CPU catching fire and noped out of there.
  - skirmish 3y ago
    Two recent builds with Asrock MBs, one CPU 7950X, another 7800X3D, both run very stable with GSkill CL30 6000MT/s memory (overclocked to 6200MT/s).
tibbydudeza 3y ago
One of the reasons why I stuck to Intel CPU's all these years - they just work out of the box - no memory profile weirdness or chipset issues.
TacticalCoder 3y ago
> This fall I bought a 7700X... I built a 7700X (which is my daily driver) about a year ago: haven't had a single problem. I used an ASUS Prime B650-Plus motherboard: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b650-plus/techspec/ https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/pr... It's working so well I didn't even bother looking if there were any new firmware available.

Filligree 3y ago

No issues with Gigabyte boards, across several machines. Are you sure this isn't just an MSI problem?

duffyjp 3y ago
I have a sample size of one, so I really couldn't say. Problems with long boot times, Expo causing BSOD, context restore not working etc appear very widespread on the AM5 platform by what I'm seeing online. Are you on AM5? My kids' AM4 board is a Gigabyte, and my friend has two AM4 MSI boards and they're all working fine.
- mldbk 3y ago
  I am on AM5 (Asus TUF B650M PLUS Wifi) and I am rock solid at 6200/CL28 with HYNIX A die 64GB. CPU is 7800X3D and GPU 7900XT. I was able to enable context restore and cold boot happens in 13-16 seconds straight to the desktop.
- Filligree 3y ago
  AM5, yes. I was happy with an Asus board for the duration of AM4, but given recent events I decided to switch.
  - wing-_-nuts 3y ago
    Sorry, what recent events? I was under the impression that ASUS was one of the better board / gpu manufacturers?
    - duffyjp 3y ago
      Not who you asked, but Asus was in the news last year for overvolting the CPUs on their AM5 boards killing both the CPU and motherboard itself.
      - Filligree 3y ago
        That's the one. I know it's rare, but I saw a CPU catching fire and noped out of there.
- skirmish 3y ago
  Two recent builds with Asrock MBs, one CPU 7950X, another 7800X3D, both run very stable with GSkill CL30 6000MT/s memory (overclocked to 6200MT/s).

tibbydudeza 3y ago

One of the reasons why I stuck to Intel CPU's all these years - they just work out of the box - no memory profile weirdness or chipset issues.

TacticalCoder 3y ago

> This fall I bought a 7700X... I built a 7700X (which is my daily driver) about a year ago: haven't had a single problem. I used an ASUS Prime B650-Plus motherboard: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b650-plus/techspec/ https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/pr... It's working so well I didn't even bother looking if there were any new firmware available.