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> I've been a paying slack customer for a decade at this point $10/month is not what I meant by "paying them". I worked at a company where clients would routin

> I've been a paying slack customer for a decade at this point $10/month is not what I meant by "paying them". I worked at a company where clients would routinely pay us $200K to implement a particular niche feature which was not on the roadmap. If they asked for a non-roadmap feature, yes, the ticket would be closed "not-planned".

cxr 3y ago
You seem to be choosing to engage with your own least charitable inferences rather than what reflects your counterpart's actual position. Viz: > the alternative option isn't there > I don't feel entitled. I don't have a choice in my chat app Your responses are predicated on the option being there and the person you're responding to is just not taking it. This despite the fact that his or her responses strongly suggest they would take it if it were there, but it's simply not an option.
- dist-epoch 3y ago
  There is always an option. Threaten your employer you'll leave if they make you use Slack, quit programming and become a farmer who touches grass every day. All this Electron app complaining reads like First-World Problems(TM).
  - maccard 3y ago
    Overly-reductionist arguments are not helpful. Suggesting that I quit my job because I disagree with the tech stack of a billion dollar company might be one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site in the 15 years or so I've been here.
  - cxr 3y ago
    You know we can read back the comments that were posted in this thread and check your response against the context, right? You just moved the goalposts from being willing to pay for the product that would need to be changed to address the complaints, to refusing to use the software complained about.
    - dist-epoch 3y ago
      I'm not moving anything. Parent obviously doesn't want to pay the millions Slack would probably ask to make it "efficient" (whatever that means), you say parent has no alternative, I'm providing alternatives. Or one can go back complaining "how the world is cruel, people are mean and greedy, I'm a good and misunderstood person which writes the most efficient and user considering software, unlike the evil people at Slack"
      - cxr 3y ago
        You're just shamelessly making up strawman non-quotes now.

cxr 3y ago

You seem to be choosing to engage with your own least charitable inferences rather than what reflects your counterpart's actual position. Viz: > the alternative option isn't there > I don't feel entitled. I don't have a choice in my chat app Your responses are predicated on the option being there and the person you're responding to is just not taking it. This despite the fact that his or her responses strongly suggest they would take it if it were there, but it's simply not an option.

dist-epoch 3y ago
There is always an option. Threaten your employer you'll leave if they make you use Slack, quit programming and become a farmer who touches grass every day. All this Electron app complaining reads like First-World Problems(TM).
- maccard 3y ago
  Overly-reductionist arguments are not helpful. Suggesting that I quit my job because I disagree with the tech stack of a billion dollar company might be one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site in the 15 years or so I've been here.
- cxr 3y ago
  You know we can read back the comments that were posted in this thread and check your response against the context, right? You just moved the goalposts from being willing to pay for the product that would need to be changed to address the complaints, to refusing to use the software complained about.
  - dist-epoch 3y ago
    I'm not moving anything. Parent obviously doesn't want to pay the millions Slack would probably ask to make it "efficient" (whatever that means), you say parent has no alternative, I'm providing alternatives. Or one can go back complaining "how the world is cruel, people are mean and greedy, I'm a good and misunderstood person which writes the most efficient and user considering software, unlike the evil people at Slack"
    - cxr 3y ago
      You're just shamelessly making up strawman non-quotes now.