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I find comments like this not very helpful. I mean, sure tall things fall, but you have presumably competent people working with these things, people that under

I find comments like this not very helpful. I mean, sure tall things fall, but you have presumably competent people working with these things, people that understand risks and do this all their life. Certainly people that know more than you and me. Somehow, they failed on this, and there's lessons to learn here, but smug "hurr-durr, don't stack things tall" is not it.

selcuka 3y ago
> you have presumably competent people working with these things, people that understand risks and do this all their life. I don't know if you are Turkish, but unfortunately this statement is not a given in Turkey, mostly because of corruption, nepotism, and a general lack of respect for knowledge and experience. I personally know some of the people who built this mine.
- gus_massa 3y ago
  I'm not sure about Turkey, but everywhere it's common to fire the guy that is worried about security and doesn't want to cut corners. Even if they are competent, some people must choose eating or safety.
buremba 3y ago
When you consider the costs of "doing it the right way", the reasoning becomes much more complex no matter how competent people are. In addition to all the corruption, we also culturally tend to be more risk-tolerant when it comes to safety IMO.
bboygravity 3y ago
Just world fallacy
ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
> "hurr-durr, don't stack things tall" This is a rude and uncharitable (bordering on disingenuous) paraphrase of the post you're replying to. The fact that you tossed in an extraneous "hurr-durr" of your own seems to indicate that you feel particularly incapable of responding to what was actually said.
- RealityVoid 3y ago
  What should I be responding to more exactly? Someone saying platitudes while being smug? Yes, I am incapable of responding because there is nothing to respond _to_.
InCityDreams 3y ago
Comment might not be helpful, but it's very true.

selcuka 3y ago

> you have presumably competent people working with these things, people that understand risks and do this all their life. I don't know if you are Turkish, but unfortunately this statement is not a given in Turkey, mostly because of corruption, nepotism, and a general lack of respect for knowledge and experience. I personally know some of the people who built this mine.

gus_massa 3y ago
I'm not sure about Turkey, but everywhere it's common to fire the guy that is worried about security and doesn't want to cut corners. Even if they are competent, some people must choose eating or safety.

buremba 3y ago

When you consider the costs of "doing it the right way", the reasoning becomes much more complex no matter how competent people are. In addition to all the corruption, we also culturally tend to be more risk-tolerant when it comes to safety IMO.

bboygravity 3y ago

Just world fallacy

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago

> "hurr-durr, don't stack things tall" This is a rude and uncharitable (bordering on disingenuous) paraphrase of the post you're replying to. The fact that you tossed in an extraneous "hurr-durr" of your own seems to indicate that you feel particularly incapable of responding to what was actually said.

RealityVoid 3y ago
What should I be responding to more exactly? Someone saying platitudes while being smug? Yes, I am incapable of responding because there is nothing to respond _to_.

InCityDreams 3y ago

Comment might not be helpful, but it's very true.