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> That was expensive. Really expensive. At somewhere around $15-20 dollar for an Album, buying an Album a week took up about all my allowance - and most of the

by kreco 3y ago

> That was expensive. Really expensive. At somewhere around $15-20 dollar for an Album, buying an Album a week took up about all my allowance - and most of the measly income from side jobs I've made as an adolescent. Interestingly, Spotify you have been as streaming service and an MP3 shop where you actually pay the music like 0.5€ so you could actually do whatever you want and listen to your music the way you want. The current situation is that you don't own anything and you can't just deal with raw files (which locks you into a quite shitty UI).

jasode 3y ago
>, Spotify you have been as streaming service and an MP3 shop where you actually pay the music like 0.5€ Assuming you meant to write, "Spotify could have been as streaming service _and_ an MP3 shop" ... No, Spotify didn't have the leverage in negotiations with Big Record Labels to offer streaming plus DRM-free mp3 files for 0.5€. Apple is more powerful than Spotify and they eventually relented to Big Labels demands and added a more expensive tier of songs at $1.29 instead of all songs being just $0.99 pricing. Too generalize... to consider the realism of any hypothetical alternative business models for Spotify to have, you also have to consider whether the Big Labels would have even made those ideas possible when Spotify was negotiating the licenses.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
> The current situation is that you don't own anything and you can't just deal with raw files (which locks you into a quite shitty UI). It has never been easier to own an easily copiable and backup-able form of the music you want and use it with myriad ways to play it and listen to it. People just don’t want to pay a dollar or two for their favorite songs.
- lowercased 3y ago
  Or... don't want to repay. I've followed some bands from vinyl to tapes to cds to now. I've bought some of the same songs 4, 5, 6 or more times. Listening for 'free' via streaming is good enough for most stuff any more, even if it means I'll lose access to some stuff. If I'm really desperate, maybe I'll look for a torrent, but I haven't done that in years.
  - ambichook 3y ago
    if you have the CD why are you repaying? you literally already have the file on a physical medium that can be backed up and copied to whatever device you want
StackRanker3000 3y ago
Spotify allows you to play local files, add them to playlists, etc. So no you can't buy the files from Spotify, but if it's important to you, you can buy them elsewhere and import them.
- wbkang 3y ago
  It's an unreliable and jarring experience, I had to give up on it. The app gives no indication when the synchronization would happen, and doesn't explain why when it does not work.

by kreco 3y ago

jasode 3y ago

>, Spotify you have been as streaming service and an MP3 shop where you actually pay the music like 0.5€ Assuming you meant to write, "Spotify could have been as streaming service _and_ an MP3 shop" ... No, Spotify didn't have the leverage in negotiations with Big Record Labels to offer streaming plus DRM-free mp3 files for 0.5€. Apple is more powerful than Spotify and they eventually relented to Big Labels demands and added a more expensive tier of songs at $1.29 instead of all songs being just $0.99 pricing. Too generalize... to consider the realism of any hypothetical alternative business models for Spotify to have, you also have to consider whether the Big Labels would have even made those ideas possible when Spotify was negotiating the licenses.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

> The current situation is that you don't own anything and you can't just deal with raw files (which locks you into a quite shitty UI). It has never been easier to own an easily copiable and backup-able form of the music you want and use it with myriad ways to play it and listen to it. People just don’t want to pay a dollar or two for their favorite songs.

lowercased 3y ago
Or... don't want to repay. I've followed some bands from vinyl to tapes to cds to now. I've bought some of the same songs 4, 5, 6 or more times. Listening for 'free' via streaming is good enough for most stuff any more, even if it means I'll lose access to some stuff. If I'm really desperate, maybe I'll look for a torrent, but I haven't done that in years.
- ambichook 3y ago
  if you have the CD why are you repaying? you literally already have the file on a physical medium that can be backed up and copied to whatever device you want

StackRanker3000 3y ago

Spotify allows you to play local files, add them to playlists, etc. So no you can't buy the files from Spotify, but if it's important to you, you can buy them elsewhere and import them.

wbkang 3y ago
It's an unreliable and jarring experience, I had to give up on it. The app gives no indication when the synchronization would happen, and doesn't explain why when it does not work.