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Show HN: I made a tool to ditch the Stripe invoicing fee

27 points by marclou 3y ago

Hey HN. A few weeks ago I realized I gave $1,600 to Stripe to generate PDF invoices. That little checkbox in the dashboard was expensive. So I created ZenVoice, a tool to let your customers generate, edit, and download invoices themselves - 1-minute no-code setup - Reduce customer support - No 0.4% Stripe invoice fee It uses Stripe Restricted API keys to securely connect all your accounts. Marc

antifarben 3y ago
Nice, how does it work again? Is there access to the source after buying the license or how exactly is this meant to function?
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dominuskelvin 3y ago
I followed Marc as he built ZenVoice live on his stream. It was phenomenal to watch the idea crystallize. I think ZenVoice will save merchants on Stripe lots of time manually sending invoices to customers. Great job on the launch, Marc!
joaoaguiam 3y ago
This makes total sense... Those Stripe PDFs are expensive! And it was great to see you building this tool from 0 to launch on your livestream. Thanks for all you share with the community Marc.
DinakarS 3y ago
Great product but why one-time fee? I think it’ll be hard to scale this product as more users start sending invoices
- a_dabbler 3y ago
  I reckon the 1600 he's saved for himself already cover most of the costs. You can probably run this on a reasonable VPS very cheaply. Still a yearly fee would probably be more appropriate for the long term I don't think the customers on this are going to be too fussed on the difference between $50 lifetime and $50 yearly given the savings being made
- marclou 3y ago
  Because 1 customer would have to generate 49,000 invoices before I start losing money. Too many businesses are greedy with subscriptions. I won't join the trend.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Would be very interested in self-hosting as an option.
piterrro 3y ago
Who is responsible for the compliance of the invoices generated through Zenvoice? The user or Zenvoice?
- throwaway11460 3y ago
  It's always the person that issues the invoice (meaning the vendor on the invoice). Always. You won't get out of a fine by telling the taxman "buuuut Stripe promised". BTW Stripe invoices are not compliant for VAT payers in EU.

27 points by marclou 3y ago

antifarben 3y ago

Nice, how does it work again? Is there access to the source after buying the license or how exactly is this meant to function?

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dominuskelvin 3y ago

I followed Marc as he built ZenVoice live on his stream. It was phenomenal to watch the idea crystallize. I think ZenVoice will save merchants on Stripe lots of time manually sending invoices to customers. Great job on the launch, Marc!

joaoaguiam 3y ago

This makes total sense... Those Stripe PDFs are expensive! And it was great to see you building this tool from 0 to launch on your livestream. Thanks for all you share with the community Marc.

DinakarS 3y ago

Great product but why one-time fee? I think it’ll be hard to scale this product as more users start sending invoices

a_dabbler 3y ago
I reckon the 1600 he's saved for himself already cover most of the costs. You can probably run this on a reasonable VPS very cheaply. Still a yearly fee would probably be more appropriate for the long term I don't think the customers on this are going to be too fussed on the difference between $50 lifetime and $50 yearly given the savings being made
marclou 3y ago
Because 1 customer would have to generate 49,000 invoices before I start losing money. Too many businesses are greedy with subscriptions. I won't join the trend.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Would be very interested in self-hosting as an option.

piterrro 3y ago

Who is responsible for the compliance of the invoices generated through Zenvoice? The user or Zenvoice?

throwaway11460 3y ago
It's always the person that issues the invoice (meaning the vendor on the invoice). Always. You won't get out of a fine by telling the taxman "buuuut Stripe promised". BTW Stripe invoices are not compliant for VAT payers in EU.