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Copyright as we know it didn't exist before the Statute of Anne in 1709. Shakespeare. Leonardo. Michelangelo. Aristotle. All of them produced their timeless w

Copyright as we know it didn't exist before the Statute of Anne in 1709. Shakespeare. Leonardo. Michelangelo. Aristotle. All of them produced their timeless works without copyright. Copyright was a workable hack as long as making copies required buying a printing press (or equivalent), but those days are over and they aren't ever coming back. Rather than continuing to bail out the sinking ship of copyright, artists need to start thinking about (and working on) new ways to get paid.

hyggetrold 3y ago
Do you know anything at all about how all those artists got paid? Why is it on the exploited to figure it out? “Sorry bud, I know I keep holding you up for money. You really ought to figure out a way not to get robbed.”
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  > Do you know anything at all about how all those artists got paid? Do you? Besides, that's not the point. Your previous way of making money is untenable, and has been since the invention of the Xerox machine. What are you doing about it? The manual drafters either learned CAD or got out of the trade. The blacksmiths either learned how to be machinists or got out of the trade. The farmers either learned how to use tractors or got out of the trade. Your current business model is utterly dependent on the assumption that making copies is difficult and/or expensive. That's not true, and hasn't been true for quite some time. You can either deal with that fact or find yourself in the position of whalers after Rockefeller started cranking out fuel for kerosene lamps by the trainload. > Why is it on the exploited to figure it out? No one is being "exploited". No one is standing over you with a whip and forcing you to work. Other people get paid for doing a job at the end of a week or month, and that's it. They don't continue to get paid for 90 years for one piece of work. I mean, yeah, that's a sweet deal, but sweet deals rarely last forever. The stated reason for copyright (at least in the US) is to improve society by "promot[ing] the Progress of Science and useful Arts", not to enrich the authors per se. > “Sorry bud, I know I keep holding you up for money. You really ought to figure out a way not to get robbed.” Casual copyright violation is not, and never has been, prosecuted as theft or "robbery". The very concept didn't even exist until recent times, while real theft and robbery go all the way back to the beginning of history, likely long before.
  - hyggetrold 3y ago
    Wow. You wrote so many words and yet you said nothing substantive whatsoever. Good riddance!
    - Turing_Machine 3y ago
      Whatever, dude. I'd still recommend that you work on alternative methods of getting paid.

hyggetrold 3y ago

Do you know anything at all about how all those artists got paid? Why is it on the exploited to figure it out? “Sorry bud, I know I keep holding you up for money. You really ought to figure out a way not to get robbed.”

Turing_Machine 3y ago
> Do you know anything at all about how all those artists got paid? Do you? Besides, that's not the point. Your previous way of making money is untenable, and has been since the invention of the Xerox machine. What are you doing about it? The manual drafters either learned CAD or got out of the trade. The blacksmiths either learned how to be machinists or got out of the trade. The farmers either learned how to use tractors or got out of the trade. Your current business model is utterly dependent on the assumption that making copies is difficult and/or expensive. That's not true, and hasn't been true for quite some time. You can either deal with that fact or find yourself in the position of whalers after Rockefeller started cranking out fuel for kerosene lamps by the trainload. > Why is it on the exploited to figure it out? No one is being "exploited". No one is standing over you with a whip and forcing you to work. Other people get paid for doing a job at the end of a week or month, and that's it. They don't continue to get paid for 90 years for one piece of work. I mean, yeah, that's a sweet deal, but sweet deals rarely last forever. The stated reason for copyright (at least in the US) is to improve society by "promot[ing] the Progress of Science and useful Arts", not to enrich the authors per se. > “Sorry bud, I know I keep holding you up for money. You really ought to figure out a way not to get robbed.” Casual copyright violation is not, and never has been, prosecuted as theft or "robbery". The very concept didn't even exist until recent times, while real theft and robbery go all the way back to the beginning of history, likely long before.
- hyggetrold 3y ago
  Wow. You wrote so many words and yet you said nothing substantive whatsoever. Good riddance!
  - Turing_Machine 3y ago
    Whatever, dude. I'd still recommend that you work on alternative methods of getting paid.