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Cool project, I look forward to digging in a bit - been meaning to check out some of cloudflare's dev offerings for a bit. Athena is already a name in the clou

Cool project, I look forward to digging in a bit - been meaning to check out some of cloudflare's dev offerings for a bit. Athena is already a name in the cloudy database segment though - Amazon's managed Presto offering https://docs.aws.amazon.com/athena/latest/ug/what-is.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/athena/latest/ug/what-is.html

pushedx 3y ago
Came here to say this. Very cool project but unfortunately the name is immediately a trademark issue.
- threeseed 3y ago
  Indeed. Athena is a pretty popular database service and is trademarked by AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/trademark-guidelines/ https://aws.amazon.com/trademark-guidelines/ I would expect a cease and desist at some point.
  - rlt 3y ago
    Yeah, came here to say this, you’ll probably have problems with Amazon’s trademarked Athena database offering.
    - seejayseesjays 3y ago
      Indubitably, there might (p > 0.85) be an issue with the managed Presto database offered by Amazon, which is also named Athena btw.
  - nvartolomei 3y ago
    The page says they hold the trademark to “Amazon Athena”. Does this come into conflict with a project named “AthenaDB”?
    - michaelt 3y ago
      Even if you avoid legal issues, there's still the practical issues. Fighting for ranking on Google. Conflicting tags on stackoverflow. Confused users sending you complaints about someone else's product. And so on.
      - tomschwiha 3y ago
        For me in Google at least the greek goddess wins, 50/50 shared with the movie.
      - chand1012 3y ago
        Naming is hard. AthenaDB was the initial name of the MVP, I just never came up with a better one. Guess I'll have to do that now that I know AWS has another DB adjacent product with that name.
  - tomschwiha 3y ago
    From checking the trademark database they registered their trademark only a few months ago (Dec. 21, 2023). The first commit to AthenaDB was on Dec 11, 2023. Is the prior use to a trademark the important date or the actual date of registration?
    - scosman 3y ago
      Unregistered trademarks are a thing too. In both cases its use in market time, not registration time.
    - iambateman 3y ago
      Just because you could potentially win in court doesn’t mean you want to go toe to toe with Amazon legal, ya know?
scosman 3y ago
Trademark aside: you’ll probably never rank in search which is also a pain.

pushedx 3y ago

Came here to say this. Very cool project but unfortunately the name is immediately a trademark issue.

threeseed 3y ago
Indeed. Athena is a pretty popular database service and is trademarked by AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/trademark-guidelines/ https://aws.amazon.com/trademark-guidelines/ I would expect a cease and desist at some point.
- rlt 3y ago
  Yeah, came here to say this, you’ll probably have problems with Amazon’s trademarked Athena database offering.
  - seejayseesjays 3y ago
    Indubitably, there might (p > 0.85) be an issue with the managed Presto database offered by Amazon, which is also named Athena btw.
- nvartolomei 3y ago
  The page says they hold the trademark to “Amazon Athena”. Does this come into conflict with a project named “AthenaDB”?
  - michaelt 3y ago
    Even if you avoid legal issues, there's still the practical issues. Fighting for ranking on Google. Conflicting tags on stackoverflow. Confused users sending you complaints about someone else's product. And so on.
    - tomschwiha 3y ago
      For me in Google at least the greek goddess wins, 50/50 shared with the movie.
    - chand1012 3y ago
      Naming is hard. AthenaDB was the initial name of the MVP, I just never came up with a better one. Guess I'll have to do that now that I know AWS has another DB adjacent product with that name.
- tomschwiha 3y ago
  From checking the trademark database they registered their trademark only a few months ago (Dec. 21, 2023). The first commit to AthenaDB was on Dec 11, 2023. Is the prior use to a trademark the important date or the actual date of registration?
  - scosman 3y ago
    Unregistered trademarks are a thing too. In both cases its use in market time, not registration time.
  - iambateman 3y ago
    Just because you could potentially win in court doesn’t mean you want to go toe to toe with Amazon legal, ya know?

scosman 3y ago

Trademark aside: you’ll probably never rank in search which is also a pain.