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I think you are trying to build walls around something that isn't entirely yours, both personally and “you-as-the-voice-of-the-community yours”. The linked blo

I think you are trying to build walls around something that isn't entirely yours, both personally and “you-as-the-voice-of-the-community yours”. The linked blog post actually describes that Google is drowning in ad-driven crap, and has to rely on manually chosen external structures to keep quality tolerable, not that “HN has became cool”.

throw10920 3y ago
> I think you are trying to build walls around something that isn't entirely yours, both personally and “you-as-the-voice-of-the-community yours”. Profiling other users, in addition to being extremely bad form, is a pretty good sign that you don't actually have a valid argument to make - which, reading your comment, you don't.
- ogurechny 3y ago
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- nindalf 3y ago
  It is a valid argument. Certainly it resonated with me. Your original comment made it seem like you were the voice of the community, that a majority or at least a plurality of users want your proposed change. But there’s no indication that they do.
  - throw10920 3y ago
    You are incorrect. It is not a valid argument - it's profiling, uncharitable assumptions, and ad-hominem attacks with no actual logic, or any redeeming qualities whatsoever for that matter. My language was "Would you be willing to consider the possibility" - a polite request. There's no way that a logical person could even read that as either a command or like I was acting as "the voice of the majority" or "a plurality of users" - you pulled that out of thin air Dang is not a tool or an idiot - if he thinks something is a bad idea, he won't do it. If he thinks that it might be worth doing, he'll think about it. If he needs to poll users, he will.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    There's no indication that they don't either. I guarantee you he's not alone. Simply because I agree with him. If my time here on HN taught me anything it's that I'm not alone and that there's probably many more who agree but don't do so publicly due to the socially unacceptable nature of certain arguments. My entire life it's been my experience that the less people involved the better things are in general. There's probably an optimal number of people for every community. I don't really know what that number is but I seriously doubt it's in anyone's best interests to exceed it.
  - nomel 3y ago
    Their comment started with: > I would like to make the argument Which makes this perspective very confusing: > it seem like you were the voice of the community

throw10920 3y ago

> I think you are trying to build walls around something that isn't entirely yours, both personally and “you-as-the-voice-of-the-community yours”. Profiling other users, in addition to being extremely bad form, is a pretty good sign that you don't actually have a valid argument to make - which, reading your comment, you don't.

ogurechny 3y ago
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nindalf 3y ago
It is a valid argument. Certainly it resonated with me. Your original comment made it seem like you were the voice of the community, that a majority or at least a plurality of users want your proposed change. But there’s no indication that they do.
- throw10920 3y ago
  You are incorrect. It is not a valid argument - it's profiling, uncharitable assumptions, and ad-hominem attacks with no actual logic, or any redeeming qualities whatsoever for that matter. My language was "Would you be willing to consider the possibility" - a polite request. There's no way that a logical person could even read that as either a command or like I was acting as "the voice of the majority" or "a plurality of users" - you pulled that out of thin air Dang is not a tool or an idiot - if he thinks something is a bad idea, he won't do it. If he thinks that it might be worth doing, he'll think about it. If he needs to poll users, he will.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  There's no indication that they don't either. I guarantee you he's not alone. Simply because I agree with him. If my time here on HN taught me anything it's that I'm not alone and that there's probably many more who agree but don't do so publicly due to the socially unacceptable nature of certain arguments. My entire life it's been my experience that the less people involved the better things are in general. There's probably an optimal number of people for every community. I don't really know what that number is but I seriously doubt it's in anyone's best interests to exceed it.
- nomel 3y ago
  Their comment started with: > I would like to make the argument Which makes this perspective very confusing: > it seem like you were the voice of the community