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You still can put a big red sign with "This browser is not supported, here's why.", and let the user decide if they want to try it with IE just to see if is wor

by Kesty 14y ago

You still can put a big red sign with "This browser is not supported, here's why.", and let the user decide if they want to try it with IE just to see if is worth it the browser change.

nardi 14y ago
That doesn't really fix either problem, IMO.
- Kesty 14y ago
  IE9 is actually not that bad, and IE 10 should hopefully be very good. As a developer my bigger problem with IE9 is that sometimes I forget to comment a console.log after testing. Their problem is that they want to be "pixel-perfect" across all browser. I get why, but as a User I don't really care as long as everything else works. And chance are that with IE9 and IE10 it will. I'm not a IE user, but when we stop supporting IE6 we put a big sign saying that if there were problems we won't fix them and to download a modern browser. But people still went to the site even if some divs were in crazy places because basic function they needed worked and maybe they hadn't the chance of upgrading their browser. If one of your client is once on another computer with only IE installed and doesn't have permission to install another browser, the fact that he can't use the website at all, is that a feature ?
  - ludwigvan 14y ago
    You may use log() instead of console.log() for that. See http://paulirish.com/2009/log-a-lightweight-wrapper-for-consolelog/ http://paulirish.com/2009/log-a-lightweight-wrapper-for-cons...
  - TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
    The only thing IE10 seems to lack that's really significant seems to be WebGL. Which means IE9 may be the last version of IE that will ever "hold back" the web.
  - d4n3 14y ago
    You can use the javascript shim for console in HTML5 boilerplate to make it safe for use in IE. It even logs output to a global array, so you can inspect the console output in IE. https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/js/plugins.js https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/js/plu...
TomAnthony 14y ago
If they have already tried with all versions of IE, and they know it doesn't work, then why let people bump into the problems themselves. They are going to fail either way - it's better to fail gracefully, no?

by Kesty 14y ago

You still can put a big red sign with "This browser is not supported, here's why.", and let the user decide if they want to try it with IE just to see if is worth it the browser change.

nardi 14y ago

That doesn't really fix either problem, IMO.

Kesty 14y ago
IE9 is actually not that bad, and IE 10 should hopefully be very good. As a developer my bigger problem with IE9 is that sometimes I forget to comment a console.log after testing. Their problem is that they want to be "pixel-perfect" across all browser. I get why, but as a User I don't really care as long as everything else works. And chance are that with IE9 and IE10 it will. I'm not a IE user, but when we stop supporting IE6 we put a big sign saying that if there were problems we won't fix them and to download a modern browser. But people still went to the site even if some divs were in crazy places because basic function they needed worked and maybe they hadn't the chance of upgrading their browser. If one of your client is once on another computer with only IE installed and doesn't have permission to install another browser, the fact that he can't use the website at all, is that a feature ?
- ludwigvan 14y ago
  You may use log() instead of console.log() for that. See http://paulirish.com/2009/log-a-lightweight-wrapper-for-consolelog/ http://paulirish.com/2009/log-a-lightweight-wrapper-for-cons...
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
  The only thing IE10 seems to lack that's really significant seems to be WebGL. Which means IE9 may be the last version of IE that will ever "hold back" the web.
- d4n3 14y ago
  You can use the javascript shim for console in HTML5 boilerplate to make it safe for use in IE. It even logs output to a global array, so you can inspect the console output in IE. https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/js/plugins.js https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/js/plu...

TomAnthony 14y ago

If they have already tried with all versions of IE, and they know it doesn't work, then why let people bump into the problems themselves. They are going to fail either way - it's better to fail gracefully, no?