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At least where i live (California) they classify drivers as independent contractors not employees. There was a whole prop about it which got passed and basicall

At least where i live (California) they classify drivers as independent contractors not employees. There was a whole prop about it which got passed and basically groundfathered them in as “businesses owners” forever. It is in fact pretty uncommon to tip contractors. Like would you tip your plumber? I’m gonna guess no

ProjectArcturis 3y ago
I tip my hair stylist, who's an independent contractor (mostly they rent chairs from salons rather than being direct employees). I tip babysitters.
- KoolKat23 3y ago
  But they can set their own price, why tip?
  - ProjectArcturis 3y ago
    They are both people doing important jobs for me, in long term relationships. I want them to be happy and motivated. And over time, you get to be friends with them and want to take care of them. Honestly, if you're not tipping people like this in your life it is very suboptimal.
    - dilyevsky 3y ago
      What about dentist office, you suggest to tip there too? Only in america… Normally when people are friends they do nice things for each other for free. I’m gonna go ahead and say that if your “friendship” is held up by tipping you’re not really friends
    - defrost 3y ago
      I agree with all that you said save the tipping. I'm Australian, over 60 and have never tipped. I have voted for worker rights, supported guarenteed minimum wages, gone on strike, attended picket lines and helped out anybody I've encountered that needs some kind of assistance. Workers should be paid sufficiently to live well, not reduced to begging for scraps tossed as a result of hold out customs from the days of slavery and servitude. But I guess that's just a cultural thing.
derwiki 3y ago
I’ve tipped a gardener, a cleaner, movers, but I guess not a plumber. Also doesn’t seem like it would be too weird, though.
sokoloff 3y ago
I've tipped the guy [maybe a licensed plumber, maybe an apprentice] who came out to clean out my storm water drain pipe in driving rain on a Sunday (on top of paying the ~$275 emergency callout fee to the company). I've tipped every ride share driver but a couple (one who left the "meter" running for 5 miles beyond my drop off and another who completed the ride in a different car than what the Uber app showed [as a guy, I was willing to take the ride; I wouldn't have been comfortable to have my wife do that]). AB5 or not; 1099 or not; they're doing me a service and I'm OK with tipping them for doing that service well.
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  > AB5 or not; 1099 or not; they're doing me a service and I'm OK with tipping them for doing that service well. So you suggest we start tipping commercial pilots, dentists (and other healthcare professionals) and your city council workers, like say street cleaners and garbage pickup folks? Where does it end? The money you’re paying them for said service should already be enough - it’s not a charity or friendship like some people in sibling thread are claiming (yikes) - it’s a business transaction

ProjectArcturis 3y ago

I tip my hair stylist, who's an independent contractor (mostly they rent chairs from salons rather than being direct employees). I tip babysitters.

KoolKat23 3y ago
But they can set their own price, why tip?
- ProjectArcturis 3y ago
  They are both people doing important jobs for me, in long term relationships. I want them to be happy and motivated. And over time, you get to be friends with them and want to take care of them. Honestly, if you're not tipping people like this in your life it is very suboptimal.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    What about dentist office, you suggest to tip there too? Only in america… Normally when people are friends they do nice things for each other for free. I’m gonna go ahead and say that if your “friendship” is held up by tipping you’re not really friends
  - defrost 3y ago
    I agree with all that you said save the tipping. I'm Australian, over 60 and have never tipped. I have voted for worker rights, supported guarenteed minimum wages, gone on strike, attended picket lines and helped out anybody I've encountered that needs some kind of assistance. Workers should be paid sufficiently to live well, not reduced to begging for scraps tossed as a result of hold out customs from the days of slavery and servitude. But I guess that's just a cultural thing.

derwiki 3y ago

I’ve tipped a gardener, a cleaner, movers, but I guess not a plumber. Also doesn’t seem like it would be too weird, though.

sokoloff 3y ago

I've tipped the guy [maybe a licensed plumber, maybe an apprentice] who came out to clean out my storm water drain pipe in driving rain on a Sunday (on top of paying the ~$275 emergency callout fee to the company). I've tipped every ride share driver but a couple (one who left the "meter" running for 5 miles beyond my drop off and another who completed the ride in a different car than what the Uber app showed [as a guy, I was willing to take the ride; I wouldn't have been comfortable to have my wife do that]). AB5 or not; 1099 or not; they're doing me a service and I'm OK with tipping them for doing that service well.

dilyevsky 3y ago
> AB5 or not; 1099 or not; they're doing me a service and I'm OK with tipping them for doing that service well. So you suggest we start tipping commercial pilots, dentists (and other healthcare professionals) and your city council workers, like say street cleaners and garbage pickup folks? Where does it end? The money you’re paying them for said service should already be enough - it’s not a charity or friendship like some people in sibling thread are claiming (yikes) - it’s a business transaction