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Not everyone watchs a film for intellectual pursuits, some just want to enjoy a story or relax and unwind.

by pests 3y ago

jncfhnb 3y ago
That’s great. And if that’s what you want I think “the classics” are generally not a good choice for the vast majority of people.
coldtea 3y ago
Well, then they're wrong, and should change their ways, similar to someone who just eats fast food because "that's what they like, they don't want to be challenged by food". I prefer to be a little more provocative than going with the conventional wisdom and just saying: "well, more power to them". They need to put in the work to get that increased power :)
- pests 3y ago
  Not everyone is trying to improve themselves or learn something. Nothing about watching a dumb movie to escape the world and relax for two hours is unhealthy; probably improves mental well being. How is that related to unhealthy food? Again, not everyone wants power. You might want to try being more proactive in your compassion.
- lupire 3y ago
  If my whole worldview was upended 50 times or more each year by classic great films, my ego psyche and would lay crumbled on the floor. You should show more respect for the people you depend upon to maintain your sense or intellectual and moral superiority. Where would you be without them?
  - Barrin92 3y ago
    I always find these attacks on perceived elitism extremely inverted. Someone who recognizes the importance of challenging classics implicitly recognizes that this holds value for anyone. On the other hand "don't be an elitist, the mailman doesn't need to read the Iliad" is not as humanistic of a position as many people think it is. The pseudo-egalitarian idea that there is no difference in value when it comes to what people consume depends on the nasty, unspoken idea that the masses are just too stupid to want to do anything seriously challenging.
    - pests 3y ago
      > "don't be an elitist, the mailman doesn't need to read the Iliad" That's not what I meant originally. It's okay if the mailman wants to watch the newest Marvel movie to relax and unwind after work. Or maybe the mailman grew up reading the comics and the Marvel movies are a dream come true, despite their flaws. Why is it not okay for the mailman to have pursuits that aren't some way related to improving oneself or related to intellectual curiosity? Maybe they read the Iliad some other day or when they have more time or are in the mood for it, no judgement there. I think people are talking past my original comment's point. If anything its an elitist view that the mailman is wasting their time if they aren't doing something productive. That was my original point at least.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    >You should show more respect for the people you depend upon to maintain your sense or intellectual and moral superiority. Where would you be without them? Isn't a better question: where would they be with access to better education and more opportunities to cultivate their taste? Or is that only for people with "intellectual and moral superiority", and they should be content with their blockbusters and Billboard Top 100?

Not everyone watchs a film for intellectual pursuits, some just want to enjoy a story or relax and unwind.

by pests 3y ago

Not everyone watchs a film for intellectual pursuits, some just want to enjoy a story or relax and unwind.

That’s great. And if that’s what you want I think “the classics” are generally not a good choice for the vast majority of people.

coldtea 3y ago

Well, then they're wrong, and should change their ways, similar to someone who just eats fast food because "that's what they like, they don't want to be challenged by food". I prefer to be a little more provocative than going with the conventional wisdom and just saying: "well, more power to them". They need to put in the work to get that increased power :)

pests 3y ago
Not everyone is trying to improve themselves or learn something. Nothing about watching a dumb movie to escape the world and relax for two hours is unhealthy; probably improves mental well being. How is that related to unhealthy food? Again, not everyone wants power. You might want to try being more proactive in your compassion.
lupire 3y ago
If my whole worldview was upended 50 times or more each year by classic great films, my ego psyche and would lay crumbled on the floor. You should show more respect for the people you depend upon to maintain your sense or intellectual and moral superiority. Where would you be without them?
- Barrin92 3y ago
  I always find these attacks on perceived elitism extremely inverted. Someone who recognizes the importance of challenging classics implicitly recognizes that this holds value for anyone. On the other hand "don't be an elitist, the mailman doesn't need to read the Iliad" is not as humanistic of a position as many people think it is. The pseudo-egalitarian idea that there is no difference in value when it comes to what people consume depends on the nasty, unspoken idea that the masses are just too stupid to want to do anything seriously challenging.
  - pests 3y ago
    > "don't be an elitist, the mailman doesn't need to read the Iliad" That's not what I meant originally. It's okay if the mailman wants to watch the newest Marvel movie to relax and unwind after work. Or maybe the mailman grew up reading the comics and the Marvel movies are a dream come true, despite their flaws. Why is it not okay for the mailman to have pursuits that aren't some way related to improving oneself or related to intellectual curiosity? Maybe they read the Iliad some other day or when they have more time or are in the mood for it, no judgement there. I think people are talking past my original comment's point. If anything its an elitist view that the mailman is wasting their time if they aren't doing something productive. That was my original point at least.
- coldtea 3y ago
  >You should show more respect for the people you depend upon to maintain your sense or intellectual and moral superiority. Where would you be without them? Isn't a better question: where would they be with access to better education and more opportunities to cultivate their taste? Or is that only for people with "intellectual and moral superiority", and they should be content with their blockbusters and Billboard Top 100?