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“Poland and the demon in democracy” https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon-in-democracy https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon

“Poland and the demon in democracy” https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon-in-democracy https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon-in-d...

Kwpolska 3y ago
Politicians committing crimes end up in courts and then in prison, plain and simple. And this is plain propaganda, repeating many talking points of the PiS party (the party previously in power, who illegally used Pegasus).
- Tostino 3y ago
  iT's poLitICal PerSeCutiOn!
andrepd 3y ago
Is anyone fooled by this drivel? Honest question. Because some things are pernicious: misleading but in a subtle way, sly and devious. This is just so in-your-face laughable.
- padjo 3y ago
  About 40% of American voters appear to be falling for it.
bobx11 3y ago
The author seems to contradict themselves in many places… maybe they just really want it to be true. For example, “allegedly” and “convicted” in this case: > He was convicted during Tusk’s previous regime (2007-2014) for allegedly abusing his power while pursuing government corruption with “excessive zeal,” but was officially pardoned by then-new President Andrzej Duda in 2015 – a long-standing point of displeasure for the Polish left.
Tade0 3y ago
> The former top European Union official’s party only won 30% of the vote compared to the 36% of his incumbent conservative, EU-skeptical rivals, the Law and Justice (PiS) party, but was nonetheless able to assemble a coalition of leftists to take power. Just one party in this coalition is from the left. The rest is decidedly centre to centre-right. Hard to treat this piece seriously.
- arrrg 3y ago
  Doesn’t even matter, coalition governments are a central feature of parliamentary democracies with roughly proportional elections. Anyone who can form a coalition can rightfully govern. Those who get the most votes don’t automatically get to govern.
  - Tade0 3y ago
    I didn't even pay attention to that part, but indeed it's equally absurd.
- wwilim 3y ago
  It feels surreal to hear this crap translated into English

“Poland and the demon in democracy” https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon-in-democracy https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/poland-and-the-demon-in-d...

Kwpolska 3y ago

Politicians committing crimes end up in courts and then in prison, plain and simple. And this is plain propaganda, repeating many talking points of the PiS party (the party previously in power, who illegally used Pegasus).

Tostino 3y ago
iT's poLitICal PerSeCutiOn!

andrepd 3y ago

Is anyone fooled by this drivel? Honest question. Because some things are pernicious: misleading but in a subtle way, sly and devious. This is just so in-your-face laughable.

padjo 3y ago
About 40% of American voters appear to be falling for it.

bobx11 3y ago

The author seems to contradict themselves in many places… maybe they just really want it to be true. For example, “allegedly” and “convicted” in this case: > He was convicted during Tusk’s previous regime (2007-2014) for allegedly abusing his power while pursuing government corruption with “excessive zeal,” but was officially pardoned by then-new President Andrzej Duda in 2015 – a long-standing point of displeasure for the Polish left.

Tade0 3y ago

> The former top European Union official’s party only won 30% of the vote compared to the 36% of his incumbent conservative, EU-skeptical rivals, the Law and Justice (PiS) party, but was nonetheless able to assemble a coalition of leftists to take power. Just one party in this coalition is from the left. The rest is decidedly centre to centre-right. Hard to treat this piece seriously.

arrrg 3y ago
Doesn’t even matter, coalition governments are a central feature of parliamentary democracies with roughly proportional elections. Anyone who can form a coalition can rightfully govern. Those who get the most votes don’t automatically get to govern.
- Tade0 3y ago
  I didn't even pay attention to that part, but indeed it's equally absurd.
wwilim 3y ago
It feels surreal to hear this crap translated into English