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A contractual agreement (that Elon met) is 'schmoozing'?

dragontamer 3y ago
A contract written by yourself (aka: Largest shareholder) given to a board you picked (aka: Chairman of the Board of Directors), giving yourself a payraise (aka: about the CEO's bonus pay) is obviously null and void. You can't just give yourself a pay-raise. Even if you're the largest shareholder, the controlling member of the board of directors, and CEO of a company. If you accept the public's money, then the _other_ shareholders, even small minority stakes, have a say in the matter. If you don't like the fact that Delaware looks out for smaller shareholders, you can I guess move out to other states or something. But for the most part, people accept the fact that public companies have rules that go above-and-beyond normal. Wanton acts of corporate corruption aren't tolerated in Delaware. -------------- The rule in play here is shareholder fiduciary duty. The Board of Directors failed to represent the needs of all of its shareholders like they are legally obligated to do. A large pay-bonus to a CEO who already controls a large stake in Tesla (who'd benefit from Tesla improving anyway) is obviously a bad move. No other CEO in history had such a large share-increase bonus. In any case, looking out for the little guy is a deeply American value. We understand the problems associated with Tyranny of the Majority. If you want to fully own a company, then stay a private-business (like the Mars family), don't come begging to the public for public money.
- riehwvfbk 3y ago
  Looking out for the little guy is an American value? Walmart and Amazon warehouse employees would like a word with those mythical Americans.
- PaywallBuster 3y ago
  big enough shareholders get to place their own board members you seem to have it backwards: > Typically, the board chooses one of its members to be the chairman (often now called the "chair" or "chairperson") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-steps-down-chairman-tesla/ https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-steps-down-chair... Elon Musk, IIRC, was Chairman, Largest Shareholder, and CEO when the deal in question / contract was written. Elon had a spat with SEC who removed him as chair, but Musk remained largest Shareholders and CEO after that.
- qwerasdf5 3y ago
  This is incorrect. There is no "pay raise" if he doesn't meet his contractual obligations. He almost got 0 dollars. How is that a pay raise?

A contract written by yourself (aka: Largest shareholder) given to a board you picked (aka: Chairman of the Board of Directors), giving yourself a payraise (aka: about the CEO's bonus pay) is obviously null and void. You can't just give yourself a pay-raise. Even if you're the largest shareholder, the controlling member of the board of directors, and CEO of a company. If you accept the public's money, then the _other_ shareholders, even small minority stakes, have a say in the matter. If you don't like the fact that Delaware looks out for smaller shareholders, you can I guess move out to other states or something. But for the most part, people accept the fact that public companies have rules that go above-and-beyond normal. Wanton acts of corporate corruption aren't tolerated in Delaware. -------------- The rule in play here is shareholder fiduciary duty. The Board of Directors failed to represent the needs of all of its shareholders like they are legally obligated to do. A large pay-bonus to a CEO who already controls a large stake in Tesla (who'd benefit from Tesla improving anyway) is obviously a bad move. No other CEO in history had such a large share-increase bonus. In any case, looking out for the little guy is a deeply American value. We understand the problems associated with Tyranny of the Majority. If you want to fully own a company, then stay a private-business (like the Mars family), don't come begging to the public for public money.

riehwvfbk 3y ago
Looking out for the little guy is an American value? Walmart and Amazon warehouse employees would like a word with those mythical Americans.
PaywallBuster 3y ago
big enough shareholders get to place their own board members you seem to have it backwards: > Typically, the board chooses one of its members to be the chairman (often now called the "chair" or "chairperson") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors
- dragontamer 3y ago
  https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-steps-down-chairman-tesla/ https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-steps-down-chair... Elon Musk, IIRC, was Chairman, Largest Shareholder, and CEO when the deal in question / contract was written. Elon had a spat with SEC who removed him as chair, but Musk remained largest Shareholders and CEO after that.
qwerasdf5 3y ago
This is incorrect. There is no "pay raise" if he doesn't meet his contractual obligations. He almost got 0 dollars. How is that a pay raise?