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It's not a problem that it's unusable when the battery is flat? Do you mean "I'm willing to inconvenience myself in order to use this product"?

suction 3y ago
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vundercind 3y ago
It wasn’t inconvenient because you could get a day’s worth of charge, from dead battery, in about ten minutes and it lasted many days between full charges. I used one for several months and never once was it any amount of problem or inconvenience. Time lost because I couldn’t use the mouse when I needed to was zero. Meanwhile, I probably would have left it plugged in all the time if not for that, out of battery-anxiety from using crappy rechargeable accessories that charge slowly and discharge fast. I didn’t need to be willing to inconvenience myself because it was never inconvenient.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  OK, so not everyone remembers to plug it in, and when you are under pressure 10 minutes might just be a disaster, or at least very annoying. It's fine if it works for you, but more broadly it's not very practical, and the reason for that is the long running Apple disease of form over function.
  - vundercind 3y ago
    It’s a bad example because it’s really not a problem. There exist good examples. When people pick that one to call out it’s a good sign they haven’t used much Apple hardware (or they’d pick a better one)
    - dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
      I bought my first Mac in 1986 and kept on buying until about 2010 when the product quality turned to shit. I've used actual good Apple hardware but some who live in the current Apple ghetto have never had the experience. They created many great machines in that time but also misguided junk. In my view the "magic" mouse falls into the later category. But maybe try something other than an ad hominem or "my n=1 survey shows..." argument next time to be more convincing.
      - vundercind 3y ago
        > In my view the "magic" mouse falls into the later category. Have you used one? I also thought it was a laughable mis-step, until I used one. Apple does dumb shit all the time, but that one was fine.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I have and it's indeed a terrible design for functionality. It's just nice to look at. But there's a reason neither Logitech, nor Microsoft nor any other self respecting peripheral manufacturer copied or at least imitated that design, and it's not patents. It's just awful and if it weren't made by Apple, nobody would be praising it.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        My ex gave me the one that came with his iMac, and I had to threaten him with throwing it away to get him to take it back. The Magic Trackpad is an unparalleled multitouch input surface. The Magic Mouse is just the worse way to use a pointing device.

suction 3y ago

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vundercind 3y ago

It wasn’t inconvenient because you could get a day’s worth of charge, from dead battery, in about ten minutes and it lasted many days between full charges. I used one for several months and never once was it any amount of problem or inconvenience. Time lost because I couldn’t use the mouse when I needed to was zero. Meanwhile, I probably would have left it plugged in all the time if not for that, out of battery-anxiety from using crappy rechargeable accessories that charge slowly and discharge fast. I didn’t need to be willing to inconvenience myself because it was never inconvenient.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
OK, so not everyone remembers to plug it in, and when you are under pressure 10 minutes might just be a disaster, or at least very annoying. It's fine if it works for you, but more broadly it's not very practical, and the reason for that is the long running Apple disease of form over function.
- vundercind 3y ago
  It’s a bad example because it’s really not a problem. There exist good examples. When people pick that one to call out it’s a good sign they haven’t used much Apple hardware (or they’d pick a better one)
  - dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
    I bought my first Mac in 1986 and kept on buying until about 2010 when the product quality turned to shit. I've used actual good Apple hardware but some who live in the current Apple ghetto have never had the experience. They created many great machines in that time but also misguided junk. In my view the "magic" mouse falls into the later category. But maybe try something other than an ad hominem or "my n=1 survey shows..." argument next time to be more convincing.
    - vundercind 3y ago
      > In my view the "magic" mouse falls into the later category. Have you used one? I also thought it was a laughable mis-step, until I used one. Apple does dumb shit all the time, but that one was fine.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I have and it's indeed a terrible design for functionality. It's just nice to look at. But there's a reason neither Logitech, nor Microsoft nor any other self respecting peripheral manufacturer copied or at least imitated that design, and it's not patents. It's just awful and if it weren't made by Apple, nobody would be praising it.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        My ex gave me the one that came with his iMac, and I had to threaten him with throwing it away to get him to take it back. The Magic Trackpad is an unparalleled multitouch input surface. The Magic Mouse is just the worse way to use a pointing device.