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We don't know if the reviewer here is guilty of some wrong, but posting his passport is definitely wrong from the business' side, even if it's not technically i

We don't know if the reviewer here is guilty of some wrong, but posting his passport is definitely wrong from the business' side, even if it's not technically illegal in that country.

_trampeltier 3y ago
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- deleted 3y ago
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anigbrowl 3y ago
Their hope is that he will recognized and denied service or treated with kid gloves by other airlines.
- bertil 3y ago
  You can share his name, or at least the name he uses to send similar messages for that. No need to share a document that will be used by dangerous people to impersonate him.
- throwanem 3y ago
  Pedant's note: To 'handle with kid gloves' refers to an especially soft and delicate type of leather ('kidskin', from an original and now archaic sense of 'kid' meaning a young goat), and as a figure describes especially gentle or deferential treatment.
  - projektfu 3y ago
    Seems like that might be one interpretation. Instead of denying service, say we don't give influencers money for reviews and make sure he has nothing to complain about, even if he has nothing to gush about. Then a shitty review would be obviously because of the lack of payola.
    - slowmovintarget 3y ago
      No, they wouldn't want other airlines giving him extra nice service, they'd want other airlines treating him as toxic. Which is not the meaning of "kid gloves."
      - anigbrowl 3y ago
        Projektfu's interpretation is what I had in mind, actually. Some airlines might prefer to avoid conflict by treating the guy as delicately as possible. I don't know what the thoughts of the Timorese airline are.
      - throwanem 3y ago
        Yeah. You can show influencers as hard a hand as you like, for all of me; I'm only here to clarify that "kid gloves" reads as if to ask for showing them a soft one.
    - throwanem 3y ago
      I'm not really sure why an East Timorese regional airline needs to give a damn what an American Youtuber thinks or says. Pretty sure this guy's audience is not the market they're playing to.
  - atoav 3y ago
    In the German equivalent the gloves are made of velvet: "mit Samthandschuhen anfassen"
Nextgrid 3y ago
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- awiesenhofer 3y ago
  > The only way for this to stop is to match their level of unprofessionalness/childishness. Whatever the situation, this is NEVER the right way!
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    > Whatever the situation, this is NEVER the right way! I agree with your opinion in a world where nobody profits off unprofessional/childish behavior, so any instances of it would be temporary lapses in judgement that are better dealt with by assuming good faith and not reciprocating the bad behavior. But I'm not sure if this holds in a society where some people figured out how to monetize unprofessional behavior? In this case, assuming good faith and accommodating them doesn't work and just gives them what they want.
- atoav 3y ago
  Nope. Shilling for corporate might seem like a desirable thing, but unless you are on top of corporate and you only pretend to shill for corps there is really nothing in there for you. Businesses can (and will!) fuck over customers if given the chance. And the way they are fiven the chance is by not having laws preventing behaviour like that. Additionally, such reactions are in front of a big audience. Petty revenge might feel warranted to simple minds, but for an airline that one case is irrelevant, and the effect such things have on the resr of the audience is what counts. And judging by the reactions in this thread this move is one that damages the airline more than it helps preventing any future problems.

We don't know if the reviewer here is guilty of some wrong, but posting his passport is definitely wrong from the business' side, even if it's not technically illegal in that country.

_trampeltier 3y ago

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anigbrowl 3y ago

Their hope is that he will recognized and denied service or treated with kid gloves by other airlines.

bertil 3y ago
You can share his name, or at least the name he uses to send similar messages for that. No need to share a document that will be used by dangerous people to impersonate him.
throwanem 3y ago
Pedant's note: To 'handle with kid gloves' refers to an especially soft and delicate type of leather ('kidskin', from an original and now archaic sense of 'kid' meaning a young goat), and as a figure describes especially gentle or deferential treatment.
- projektfu 3y ago
  Seems like that might be one interpretation. Instead of denying service, say we don't give influencers money for reviews and make sure he has nothing to complain about, even if he has nothing to gush about. Then a shitty review would be obviously because of the lack of payola.
  - slowmovintarget 3y ago
    No, they wouldn't want other airlines giving him extra nice service, they'd want other airlines treating him as toxic. Which is not the meaning of "kid gloves."
    - anigbrowl 3y ago
      Projektfu's interpretation is what I had in mind, actually. Some airlines might prefer to avoid conflict by treating the guy as delicately as possible. I don't know what the thoughts of the Timorese airline are.
    - throwanem 3y ago
      Yeah. You can show influencers as hard a hand as you like, for all of me; I'm only here to clarify that "kid gloves" reads as if to ask for showing them a soft one.
  - throwanem 3y ago
    I'm not really sure why an East Timorese regional airline needs to give a damn what an American Youtuber thinks or says. Pretty sure this guy's audience is not the market they're playing to.
- atoav 3y ago
  In the German equivalent the gloves are made of velvet: "mit Samthandschuhen anfassen"

Nextgrid 3y ago

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awiesenhofer 3y ago
> The only way for this to stop is to match their level of unprofessionalness/childishness. Whatever the situation, this is NEVER the right way!
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  > Whatever the situation, this is NEVER the right way! I agree with your opinion in a world where nobody profits off unprofessional/childish behavior, so any instances of it would be temporary lapses in judgement that are better dealt with by assuming good faith and not reciprocating the bad behavior. But I'm not sure if this holds in a society where some people figured out how to monetize unprofessional behavior? In this case, assuming good faith and accommodating them doesn't work and just gives them what they want.
atoav 3y ago
Nope. Shilling for corporate might seem like a desirable thing, but unless you are on top of corporate and you only pretend to shill for corps there is really nothing in there for you. Businesses can (and will!) fuck over customers if given the chance. And the way they are fiven the chance is by not having laws preventing behaviour like that. Additionally, such reactions are in front of a big audience. Petty revenge might feel warranted to simple minds, but for an airline that one case is irrelevant, and the effect such things have on the resr of the audience is what counts. And judging by the reactions in this thread this move is one that damages the airline more than it helps preventing any future problems.