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They should have just put everything on Tesla model 2. In Belgium everyone is excited for a 5000 EUR tax cut for EV vehicles below 40000 EUR. Lots of people int

They should have just put everything on Tesla model 2. In Belgium everyone is excited for a 5000 EUR tax cut for EV vehicles below 40000 EUR. Lots of people interested in buying Model 3 and Model Y now. But 35000 EUR is still too much for the general public. If they could’ve released a model 2 for 25000-30000 EUR instead of the Cybertruck, it would have dominated the EV market.

rapsey 3y ago
Tesla's are absolutely everywhere in my corner of Europe, which is by all metrics poorer than Belgium. Tesla is already dominating.
- rvnx 3y ago
  Isn't it at least because it is not possible to purchase BYD in your country yet ?
  - rapsey 3y ago
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-cars-europe-2023 https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-car...
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    It’s very much possible to buy a BYD in Norway, yet they don’t sell well. I don’t know why BYD doesn’t try harder. Maybe too small market to bother investing a lot, so they rather import a few cars at too high prices to check the Norway box. https://elbilstatistikk.no/ https://elbilstatistikk.no/
    - _njyk 3y ago
      Norway is (I believe?) the flagship country for Tesla, so it may be more difficult to pierce. I remember EV's penetration is super high there. Very cool link to see the imports! I was questioning availability of the cars, because I think this is the key issue for BYD. I wouldn't want to buy a car where you cannot get support. In Estonia for example, Tesla's are not very popular for that reason, because for a long time, you couldn't even buy them from the official website (so you had to go through gray imports and drive to Finland for the routine maintenance), it's somewhat better now. But BYD is simply unreasonably difficult to purchase, and if you do, then just doing a routine maintenance (or if you have an accident) sounds much more difficult than Tesla. Once they solve that distribution problem (and don't get under political sanctions), I think they can be really great cars.
      - coliveira 3y ago
        > Once they solve that distribution problem (and don't get under political sanctions That's the problem, I believe BYD will be sanctioned to hell in Europe (not to mention USA). They will, however, easily dominate on BRICS and other places outside rich western countries.
    - magicalhippo 3y ago
      When we were looking for our next EV last summer, the BYDs all had some weird design elements that killed the vibe for us one way or another. We ended up with a Renault Megane e-Tech[1], very pleased with it so far. Our garage was built for 1970s cars and can't fit the new monsters, so choice was limited. [1]: https://www.renault.co.uk/electric-vehicles/megane-electric.html https://www.renault.co.uk/electric-vehicles/megane-electric....

rapsey 3y ago

Tesla's are absolutely everywhere in my corner of Europe, which is by all metrics poorer than Belgium. Tesla is already dominating.

rvnx 3y ago
Isn't it at least because it is not possible to purchase BYD in your country yet ?
- rapsey 3y ago
  https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-cars-europe-2023 https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-car...
- speedgoose 3y ago
  It’s very much possible to buy a BYD in Norway, yet they don’t sell well. I don’t know why BYD doesn’t try harder. Maybe too small market to bother investing a lot, so they rather import a few cars at too high prices to check the Norway box. https://elbilstatistikk.no/ https://elbilstatistikk.no/
  - _njyk 3y ago
    Norway is (I believe?) the flagship country for Tesla, so it may be more difficult to pierce. I remember EV's penetration is super high there. Very cool link to see the imports! I was questioning availability of the cars, because I think this is the key issue for BYD. I wouldn't want to buy a car where you cannot get support. In Estonia for example, Tesla's are not very popular for that reason, because for a long time, you couldn't even buy them from the official website (so you had to go through gray imports and drive to Finland for the routine maintenance), it's somewhat better now. But BYD is simply unreasonably difficult to purchase, and if you do, then just doing a routine maintenance (or if you have an accident) sounds much more difficult than Tesla. Once they solve that distribution problem (and don't get under political sanctions), I think they can be really great cars.
    - coliveira 3y ago
      > Once they solve that distribution problem (and don't get under political sanctions That's the problem, I believe BYD will be sanctioned to hell in Europe (not to mention USA). They will, however, easily dominate on BRICS and other places outside rich western countries.
  - magicalhippo 3y ago
    When we were looking for our next EV last summer, the BYDs all had some weird design elements that killed the vibe for us one way or another. We ended up with a Renault Megane e-Tech[1], very pleased with it so far. Our garage was built for 1970s cars and can't fit the new monsters, so choice was limited. [1]: https://www.renault.co.uk/electric-vehicles/megane-electric.html https://www.renault.co.uk/electric-vehicles/megane-electric....