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Why not? How do humans drive if not by vision?
by ArtTimeInvestor 3y ago
Why not? How do humans drive if not by vision?
- rvnx 3y agoUsing sound as well
- ein0p 3y agoBecause humans drive using general intelligence - something we can’t replicate anywhere yet, let alone in a power-constrained car.
- ArtTimeInvestor 3y agosomething we can’t replicate anywhere yet yet That's why it's a race.
- ein0p 3y agoYou don’t understand. The stack currently deployed in Tesla vehicles _will never be capable_ of anything even remotely resembling AGI. There’s just not enough compute there by several orders of magnitude, even if we knew how to do it, which we don’t.
- ArtTimeInvestor 3y agonot enough compute Which type? Storage? Compute speed? How do you know what the lower bound for AGI is?
- IncreasePosts 3y agoRegardless of the issue processing the data to the level that humans can very quickly, is the camera hardware they're putting in Tesla comparable with human eyes? Specifically with dynamic range - seeing in shadowy areas on a sunny day, or not being totally blinded by a headlight at night?
- ArtTimeInvestor 3y agoWe would have to look at the camera footage of crashes and then think about whether a sufficiently intelligent person could have avoided the crash given those visuals. My feeling is that yes, with enough intelligence, even low res cameras are sufficient.
- timeon 3y agoSelf-drive is not about human, is it?
- Veserv 3y agoWell, for one, humans have two eyes in front with the same focal length giving us binocular vision. The people at Tesla apparently think humans only have one eye which is why they keep spewing the nonsensical analogy to human perception. That is just the most glaring error with that analogy. It ignores more subtle issues like how human eyes have higher resolution than 5 megapixels. Human eyes are also much better at contrast, have adaptive focus, are attached to a mobile mount, etc. The only people who would originate a intentionally deceptive argument that humans can drive with vision therefore Tesla's can drive with their camera setup are undeniably con artists trying to sell a lie. The people who are duped into promulgating that lie can be forgiven for being swindled by those con artists, it is why they are called con artists.
- fragmede 3y agocan't we want these things to be better than humans? I can't see at night or through fog. why limit computers to sensors that will be equally bad instead of something better?
- ArtTimeInvestor 3y agoWe have finite resources. Tesla thinks that investing in AI is more effective than investing in lidar and radar. Google thinks that investing in lidar and radar is worth it. We'll see how it turns out. My feeling is that Tesla is right.