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> Meanwhile, Apple might have only 57%-60% market share instead of ~95%, but unlike Microsoft, it's actively blocking users form installing any other browser th
by ToucanLoucan 3y ago
> Meanwhile, Apple might have only 57%-60% market share instead of ~95%, but unlike Microsoft, it's actively blocking users form installing any other browser that's not Safari based and any app that's not on the AppStore, therefore doing even more damage than Microsoft was doing back in the days.
Okay so like: humor me. What is the damage incurred by the user's inability to install, for example, a true Firefox on iOS that uses their Quantum engine? I'll fully cosign that iOS' Safari has quirks that make it kind of annoying, very occasionally, like once every few months I'll find something that it does in a bizarre way that others don't. But I swear every time the topic of iOS' dominance comes up, there is a detachment of users out there who are simply furious that they can't install a web browser that doesn't use Apple's WebKit on an iOS device and I just... I do not get it. At the absolute worst I have never given even 10% of the shit required to where I would upend all my stored passwords and whatnot for the ability to even use a different WebKit based browser.
Now, granted, if this was the situation on the Mac, oh hell yes, I would absolutely be right there with everyone else and grabbing my own pitchfork. But on my phone? On my tablet? I dunno, am I weird for just not really caring?
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoIt's not directly affecting you the user, it's affecting the market of app and web developer which have no choice but to dance to Apple's tune as they control a large chuck of a very lucrative market. Why should you, the user, care? For the same reason users care when Micros ft was a monopoly on desktop.
- ToucanLoucan 3y agoHow is that different than web developers being required to dance to the tune of basically every major browser? They all have little oddities that have to be taken into account, speaking as someone who has done quite a bit of web development, every major browser has it's deviations from the standard, intentional and often otherwise, that require little tweaks to one's code. And to be totally honest with you, a lot of Safari iOS's quirks are unambiguously good, pro-privacy practices that frustrate the shit out of surveillance marketing firms and I quite hope Apple keeps it up.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoWeird that you don't see a problem with monopolies and why they're bad.
- ToucanLoucan 3y agoWeird that you've sidestepped my points entirely to do vague whataboutism.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoI don't want to repeat all the arguments already said by others in this thread so all I had to add is that any monopoly can and does eventually end up abusing it's power for profit. Now it's towards developers and competitors, tomorrow it could be towards users aka you. The fact that you don't see a problem with that is the issue because you seem to assume that Apple is and will always be on your side and looking after your best interest.
- dickersnoodle 3y ago> ..to be totally honest with you, a lot of Safari iOS's quirks are unambiguously good, pro-privacy practices that frustrate the shit out of surveillance marketing firms and I quite hope Apple keeps it up. So do I.