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1. Have a large amount of oil & gas comparatively to your population 2. Sell the oil and gas to Europe 3. Use the money to finance the Utopia I don't want to

by belval 3y ago

1. Have a large amount of oil & gas comparatively to your population 2. Sell the oil and gas to Europe 3. Use the money to finance the Utopia I don't want to be too cynical, what Norway is doing is great, but I feel like whenever a case study comes up about why something works, ultimately it boils down to "money". We can go full reductio ad absurdum and write "How Norway Built a free healthcare Utopia While Ethiopia is struggling".

arcade79 3y ago
It has to be mentioned that Norway spends most of it's petromoney on the Pension Fund. We've got a rule that the government at most can touch 4% of that for whatever they want to do - but they keep it around 2-3% .
- mrits 3y ago
  Even then it should be compared to a city in the US as they would sometimes not even be a top 10 by metroplex population
  - arcade79 3y ago
    Sure, if that city stretched further than the distance from Minneapolis to Houston! We're not exactly a densely population country. We've got enormous distances. A city would be rather easy, wouldn't it? Just pop up some big charging stations around the city in addition to home charging, and that wouldn't be a problem any more. Remember that the population density of Norway is 1/5 of the population density of the US.
    - mrits 3y ago
      Surely you can think of all the reasons a sparse population is easier to maintain. Also you'd only be our 4th largest state so I wouldn't call this "enormous"
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago
  So how much do people of Norway have to save up from their income for their pension?
MrMan 3y ago
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personalityson 3y ago
4. 95% of electricity is from hydropower
- ta8645 3y ago
  Just to be clear, 95% of electricity in Norway is from hydro. Not 4.95%
- masklinn 3y ago
  That's by far the biggest consideration, most likely. Having a ton of hydro is a godsend: you have extreme amounts of energy, but it's hard to export so you can't really hit the resource curse. It can still be a bit of a factor (because high-electricity business e.g. aluminium smelters) but nowhere near as bad as oil/gas.
freitzkriesler2 3y ago
Also things these silly America sucks conparisons convenientlh forget: 1.The US is a republic of mini countries or states. 2. Norway is roughly the size of new england. 3. Norway has 5.4 million people vs America's 330 or 340 million

by belval 3y ago

arcade79 3y ago

It has to be mentioned that Norway spends most of it's petromoney on the Pension Fund. We've got a rule that the government at most can touch 4% of that for whatever they want to do - but they keep it around 2-3% .

mrits 3y ago
Even then it should be compared to a city in the US as they would sometimes not even be a top 10 by metroplex population
- arcade79 3y ago
  Sure, if that city stretched further than the distance from Minneapolis to Houston! We're not exactly a densely population country. We've got enormous distances. A city would be rather easy, wouldn't it? Just pop up some big charging stations around the city in addition to home charging, and that wouldn't be a problem any more. Remember that the population density of Norway is 1/5 of the population density of the US.
  - mrits 3y ago
    Surely you can think of all the reasons a sparse population is easier to maintain. Also you'd only be our 4th largest state so I wouldn't call this "enormous"
rad_gruchalski 3y ago
So how much do people of Norway have to save up from their income for their pension?

MrMan 3y ago

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personalityson 3y ago

4. 95% of electricity is from hydropower

ta8645 3y ago
Just to be clear, 95% of electricity in Norway is from hydro. Not 4.95%
masklinn 3y ago
That's by far the biggest consideration, most likely. Having a ton of hydro is a godsend: you have extreme amounts of energy, but it's hard to export so you can't really hit the resource curse. It can still be a bit of a factor (because high-electricity business e.g. aluminium smelters) but nowhere near as bad as oil/gas.

freitzkriesler2 3y ago

Also things these silly America sucks conparisons convenientlh forget: 1.The US is a republic of mini countries or states. 2. Norway is roughly the size of new england. 3. Norway has 5.4 million people vs America's 330 or 340 million