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> No, the EU is not acting this way because they want an "EU Apple". Nobody over here has the illusion of any such mega corporation ever coming out of the EU.

by kmlx 3y ago

> No, the EU is not acting this way because they want an "EU Apple". Nobody over here has the illusion of any such mega corporation ever coming out of the EU. i don’t know what case you’re making, but “sore losers” isn’t a winning one. > Those mega-corporations are solely coming from non-free regions. all of them come from a place that is a lot more free than any country in the EU: the US. > The EU are doing this because they wish to protect the basic rights of their citizens. this is naive.

Fischgericht 3y ago
Ok, then let's assume that the European Court of Human Rights has been corrupted by evil forces from... erm... Mars... that want to ... erm... poison the planet by giving EU citizens control over their hardware and personal data. Or something? Less naive, I guess. I'm not playing your "sore losers" game. You are implying that all there is left to fight about is which mega corporations shall be in control of your personal rights. Fine, if that's what you want. I want to be in control of my data, and to be in control of the hardware I own. This doesn't limit your freedom to have Musk, Google, Apple or whoever control your hardware. Give them your private keys. Give them your brain. All your choice and fine for me. But my hardware stays my hardware, my freedom stays my freedom, and my data stays my data :)
- Fischgericht 3y ago
  Please try to look at it this way: Just because I demand to be in control of my hardware and data instead of a corporation or oligarch does not limit YOUR rights to have a corporation or oligarch to be in control of your hardware and data in any way. So what do you have to lose? What fight are your fighting here? What's wrong with EU people wishing to keep some of their basic human rights and a free market? It does not limit you. Just because Apple is forced to play by the rules in the EU does not limit them to play by the the-winner-takes-it-all concept that now appears to be common in the US now over there.
  - kmlx 3y ago
    you somehow assume that i care about any of this stuff. i do not. i simply don’t think the EU knows anything about anything and that it has the best interest of citizens at its core. i think the EU will continue to split the internet for people like yourself. while the rest of world will continue doing what they do. i wish you and your data all the best.

by kmlx 3y ago

Fischgericht 3y ago

Ok, then let's assume that the European Court of Human Rights has been corrupted by evil forces from... erm... Mars... that want to ... erm... poison the planet by giving EU citizens control over their hardware and personal data. Or something? Less naive, I guess. I'm not playing your "sore losers" game. You are implying that all there is left to fight about is which mega corporations shall be in control of your personal rights. Fine, if that's what you want. I want to be in control of my data, and to be in control of the hardware I own. This doesn't limit your freedom to have Musk, Google, Apple or whoever control your hardware. Give them your private keys. Give them your brain. All your choice and fine for me. But my hardware stays my hardware, my freedom stays my freedom, and my data stays my data :)

Fischgericht 3y ago
Please try to look at it this way: Just because I demand to be in control of my hardware and data instead of a corporation or oligarch does not limit YOUR rights to have a corporation or oligarch to be in control of your hardware and data in any way. So what do you have to lose? What fight are your fighting here? What's wrong with EU people wishing to keep some of their basic human rights and a free market? It does not limit you. Just because Apple is forced to play by the rules in the EU does not limit them to play by the the-winner-takes-it-all concept that now appears to be common in the US now over there.
- kmlx 3y ago
  you somehow assume that i care about any of this stuff. i do not. i simply don’t think the EU knows anything about anything and that it has the best interest of citizens at its core. i think the EU will continue to split the internet for people like yourself. while the rest of world will continue doing what they do. i wish you and your data all the best.