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> I'm not involved in politics or the military action, but I can't help but feel implicated by my government's actions as a citizen here. Specifically, the incr

by KomoD 3y ago

> I'm not involved in politics or the military action, but I can't help but feel implicated by my government's actions as a citizen here. Specifically, the increasing authoritarianism and human rights issues worry me. You may be forced to participate in it if you stay, conscription. If you feel like you are fine where you are then I'd just say stay. > Is there anything constructive I can do if I stay? What would that be? You contribute to their economy meaning you are helping with all the bad things your government does

082349872349872 3y ago
> You may be forced to participate in it if you stay, conscription. My understanding is that computer geeks are currently exempt from conscription. OP's question suggests that it is still relatively easy to get a visa (living in Moscow should make it easy to visit embassies and do the needful), fly out of SVO, and convert ruble assets to local at the destination. (my bank stopped quoting ruble conversions last year, but presumably this is easier in other jurisdictions) Unfortunately, unless one has dual citizenship (compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWIfS7ZIr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWIfS7ZIr8 ) one is always at the mercy of one's birth country for travel documents. (and it is not unknown for a country to require that if you hold their passport, you must use theirs for entry and exit) Maybe I am being overly paranoid, but if there is a list of geeks who are exempt from conscription, I would worry that it only takes one political decision to have a list of geeks whose passports should be pulled were they to attempt to leave. (My bias: both I and my spouse are around because we had ancestors who got out of various jurisdictions while the getting was good. As they say: if you think you ever will, the best time to emigrate was 20 years ago; the second best time is now) Questions for OP: do you have any destinations in mind? who (avoiding PII!) would you be taking with you? > Эмигранты — не русское слово, / Но каким оно стало родным. — СВЛ
- protomolecule 3y ago
  >computer geeks are currently exempt from conscription Not the self-employed ones.

by KomoD 3y ago

082349872349872 3y ago

> You may be forced to participate in it if you stay, conscription. My understanding is that computer geeks are currently exempt from conscription. OP's question suggests that it is still relatively easy to get a visa (living in Moscow should make it easy to visit embassies and do the needful), fly out of SVO, and convert ruble assets to local at the destination. (my bank stopped quoting ruble conversions last year, but presumably this is easier in other jurisdictions) Unfortunately, unless one has dual citizenship (compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWIfS7ZIr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWIfS7ZIr8 ) one is always at the mercy of one's birth country for travel documents. (and it is not unknown for a country to require that if you hold their passport, you must use theirs for entry and exit) Maybe I am being overly paranoid, but if there is a list of geeks who are exempt from conscription, I would worry that it only takes one political decision to have a list of geeks whose passports should be pulled were they to attempt to leave. (My bias: both I and my spouse are around because we had ancestors who got out of various jurisdictions while the getting was good. As they say: if you think you ever will, the best time to emigrate was 20 years ago; the second best time is now) Questions for OP: do you have any destinations in mind? who (avoiding PII!) would you be taking with you? > Эмигранты — не русское слово, / Но каким оно стало родным. — СВЛ

protomolecule 3y ago
>computer geeks are currently exempt from conscription Not the self-employed ones.