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How many people use them on Android? Nobody around me... The Add to home prompt is "that thing you always click no or you get ads".

cybrox 3y ago
I'm not saying Android is a lot better. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39419057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39419057
Gud 3y ago
I don’t know much about Android, I haven’t used Android in more than a decade. But it seems Adblock would come out of the box in a user friendly mobile operating system. I’m guessing Google, Samsung, etc aren’t much better than Apple in this regard.
anon373839 3y ago
Android isn't exactly a control group in this context. A major appeal of web apps, apart from their freedom from gatekeeping, is that they're cross-platform. But a cross-platform technology is a lot less appealing to invest in when one of the major platforms barely supports / sabotages it.
ufocia 3y ago
More than you think really. I have some apps on my devices that are clearly webviews, which is apparent when they crap out.
- throwaway11460 3y ago
  That's not a PWA, it's actually proving that PWAs are not sufficient
Kwpolska 3y ago
I use one PWA, and it's working pretty well. One of my banks has an app that is just a web view (listed on the Play Store), and it's a bit janky at times.
whyoh 3y ago
>you get ads What do you mean? If the browser blocks ads, they'll be blocked in the PWA too, won't they?
- throwaway11460 3y ago
  Show me an average user with adblocker
  - commoner 3y ago
    Ad blocking has already been mainstream for a long time. > As of March 2023, 31% of US adult consumers said they used an ad blocker to protect their privacy, with baby boomers (31%) being more likely than Gen Zers (27%) to use the tech, according to Tinuiti. > As of Q3 2021, 37.0% of internet users worldwide use ad blockers, according to GWI data cited by Hootsuite. Among those, younger consumers are more likely to use ad blockers, with 25- to 34-year-olds taking the top spot. In the US, just over 50% of adults use an ad blocker on their desktop, per March 2021 CivicScience data. https://www.insiderintelligence.com/insights/ad-blocking/ https://www.insiderintelligence.com/insights/ad-blocking/
nox101 3y ago
tons of apps are full of ads. Nearly every game on iOS has ads. PWA vs Apps has nothing to do with whether or not there will be ads.
baxuz 3y ago
I remember being hyped about pinned web apps ever since they became a thing in Google Chrome and you could pin the to Windows' taskbar. No matter how much I tried nothing stuck. At one point I tried using the Twitter PWA as I could block ads, but that's about it.
overstay8930 3y ago
The average HN user who disses Apple has 0 clue how little the average person gives a crap about their phone. It's like roasting Toyota for taking out a manual handbrake. Sure it sucks, but come on, do you really think the average Toyota owner cares their Prius has an electric e-Brake?
schwartzworld 3y ago
> Nobody around me. How would you know? Do you ask everybody?

cybrox 3y ago

I'm not saying Android is a lot better. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39419057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39419057

Gud 3y ago

I don’t know much about Android, I haven’t used Android in more than a decade. But it seems Adblock would come out of the box in a user friendly mobile operating system. I’m guessing Google, Samsung, etc aren’t much better than Apple in this regard.

anon373839 3y ago

Android isn't exactly a control group in this context. A major appeal of web apps, apart from their freedom from gatekeeping, is that they're cross-platform. But a cross-platform technology is a lot less appealing to invest in when one of the major platforms barely supports / sabotages it.

ufocia 3y ago

More than you think really. I have some apps on my devices that are clearly webviews, which is apparent when they crap out.

throwaway11460 3y ago
That's not a PWA, it's actually proving that PWAs are not sufficient

Kwpolska 3y ago

I use one PWA, and it's working pretty well. One of my banks has an app that is just a web view (listed on the Play Store), and it's a bit janky at times.

whyoh 3y ago

>you get ads What do you mean? If the browser blocks ads, they'll be blocked in the PWA too, won't they?

throwaway11460 3y ago
Show me an average user with adblocker
- commoner 3y ago
  Ad blocking has already been mainstream for a long time. > As of March 2023, 31% of US adult consumers said they used an ad blocker to protect their privacy, with baby boomers (31%) being more likely than Gen Zers (27%) to use the tech, according to Tinuiti. > As of Q3 2021, 37.0% of internet users worldwide use ad blockers, according to GWI data cited by Hootsuite. Among those, younger consumers are more likely to use ad blockers, with 25- to 34-year-olds taking the top spot. In the US, just over 50% of adults use an ad blocker on their desktop, per March 2021 CivicScience data. https://www.insiderintelligence.com/insights/ad-blocking/ https://www.insiderintelligence.com/insights/ad-blocking/

nox101 3y ago

tons of apps are full of ads. Nearly every game on iOS has ads. PWA vs Apps has nothing to do with whether or not there will be ads.

baxuz 3y ago

I remember being hyped about pinned web apps ever since they became a thing in Google Chrome and you could pin the to Windows' taskbar. No matter how much I tried nothing stuck. At one point I tried using the Twitter PWA as I could block ads, but that's about it.

overstay8930 3y ago

The average HN user who disses Apple has 0 clue how little the average person gives a crap about their phone. It's like roasting Toyota for taking out a manual handbrake. Sure it sucks, but come on, do you really think the average Toyota owner cares their Prius has an electric e-Brake?

schwartzworld 3y ago

> Nobody around me. How would you know? Do you ask everybody?