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This isn't new, it was announced a while ago. The A800 is a variant of the previous generation A100 chip which Nvidia cooked up specifically to sneak under the

This isn't new, it was announced a while ago. The A800 is a variant of the previous generation A100 chip which Nvidia cooked up specifically to sneak under the sanctions imposed on China, but with the US cracking down further they are now cutting their losses and selling them off in other markets.

intpx 3y ago
Announced awhile ago but available now.
- jsheard 3y ago
  True, and it's still in-stock if you happen to have £15,000 burning a hole in your pocket.
  - brudgers 3y ago
    For business at scale, a capital cost of 15,000 money units can be rounding error. And for some people -- though not me -- it is actually pocket money and less than a weekend in Vegas.
    - vjjsejj 3y ago
      r/iamveryrich leaking?
    - karolist 3y ago
      "some people have more money than you", still, 15k USD is a lot, even without this perspective.
      - brudgers 3y ago
        My perspective is “It’s not for me.” And by extension “not for you.” Like Ferraris, houses in Pebble Beach, and many many other things. Modulo the fact that people will spend $15k customizing a Honda Civic.
  - adastra22 3y ago
    I've got a fire-proof pocket you can put it in.
verall 3y ago
"sneak under" vs "comply with" If the US did not want NV to sell any GPU to any Chinese company, they could make that the law instead
- deleted 3y ago
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- jsheard 3y ago
  Well the US did follow up by also banning the exports of the A800/H800 models tailored to precisely comply with the earlier sanctions, so presumably the intent was to stop export of GA100/GH100 silicon altogether and they didn't anticipate Nvidia rules-lawyering the sanctions by reconfiguring it.
  - photonbeam 3y ago
    They absolutely anticipate that, its just about how well the people actually draft regs, or not
  - declaredapple 3y ago
    > so presumably the intent was to stop export of GA100/GH100 silicon altogether They should have just written this in the regulations. Instead they're making nvidia waste resources making a product that complied with regulations.
    - forgetfreeman 3y ago
      I mean fuck around and find out. Folks want to slide right up to the edge of legal definitions that's fine, but playing victim when the powers that be see you do it and nudge the line closer to the spirit of the original intent is laughable. It's not like the concept of legislation was invented two weeks ago and folks are shambling around trying to figure out what it all means.
      - declaredapple 3y ago
        It's just frustrating for me to see people write rules, and then say "hey not like that!". It wastes everyone's time, the point of regulations is to draw the line and have no ambiguous meaning. It's like putting up a speed limit sign that says "55mph" and then ticketing them for speeding going "53mph". If they want people to go 35mph, they should just made the limit 35mph!
dheera 3y ago
NVIDIA's new GPUs have horribly confusing names. Are higher numbers better or lower numbers better? A6000? A100? A800? And H > A > V > K, I think? And there's no T100 for Tesla and J100 for Jetson? But there's a Tesla V100 (Tesla Volta 100) and a Jetson Xavier which is neither Jetson nor Xavier architecture but Volta architecture? Can we please just have monotonically increasing product names in terms of compute capacity and stop jumping around the alphabet? I know they name architectures after scientists, that's cool, but at least they could do what Ubuntu does with release names and go in alphabetical order.
- riehwvfbk 3y ago
  It's even worse than that. L > H > A, but that's for the data center cards. If you want the latest Ada Lovelace core in a workstation card, that's an RTX 4000 Ada Edition series (and it does not use the old Quadro naming). This is different from a Quadro RTX 4000 - that's two generations behind, a Turing. An RTX A4000 is one generation back, an Ampere. Oh, and gaming cards which may give you better performance for less are mashed into the same numbering scheme. An RTX 4070 is a gaming card, and it exist in vanilla, Super, Ti, and Ti Super flavors. And what makes a card "gaming" vs "workstation"? The first have a gaudier-looking heatsink and less memory. Makes sense, right?
kristianp 3y ago
Sorry, I posted this because this(1) page highlights the "A800 active" as new. Perhaps the model with a fan is new? (1) https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/design-visualization/desktop-graphics/#nv-accordion-d53da78f87-item-bfbfb49f10 https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/design-visualization/desktop-gr...

intpx 3y ago

Announced awhile ago but available now.

jsheard 3y ago
True, and it's still in-stock if you happen to have £15,000 burning a hole in your pocket.
- brudgers 3y ago
  For business at scale, a capital cost of 15,000 money units can be rounding error. And for some people -- though not me -- it is actually pocket money and less than a weekend in Vegas.
  - vjjsejj 3y ago
    r/iamveryrich leaking?
  - karolist 3y ago
    "some people have more money than you", still, 15k USD is a lot, even without this perspective.
    - brudgers 3y ago
      My perspective is “It’s not for me.” And by extension “not for you.” Like Ferraris, houses in Pebble Beach, and many many other things. Modulo the fact that people will spend $15k customizing a Honda Civic.
- adastra22 3y ago
  I've got a fire-proof pocket you can put it in.

verall 3y ago

"sneak under" vs "comply with" If the US did not want NV to sell any GPU to any Chinese company, they could make that the law instead

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jsheard 3y ago
Well the US did follow up by also banning the exports of the A800/H800 models tailored to precisely comply with the earlier sanctions, so presumably the intent was to stop export of GA100/GH100 silicon altogether and they didn't anticipate Nvidia rules-lawyering the sanctions by reconfiguring it.
- photonbeam 3y ago
  They absolutely anticipate that, its just about how well the people actually draft regs, or not
- declaredapple 3y ago
  > so presumably the intent was to stop export of GA100/GH100 silicon altogether They should have just written this in the regulations. Instead they're making nvidia waste resources making a product that complied with regulations.
  - forgetfreeman 3y ago
    I mean fuck around and find out. Folks want to slide right up to the edge of legal definitions that's fine, but playing victim when the powers that be see you do it and nudge the line closer to the spirit of the original intent is laughable. It's not like the concept of legislation was invented two weeks ago and folks are shambling around trying to figure out what it all means.
    - declaredapple 3y ago
      It's just frustrating for me to see people write rules, and then say "hey not like that!". It wastes everyone's time, the point of regulations is to draw the line and have no ambiguous meaning. It's like putting up a speed limit sign that says "55mph" and then ticketing them for speeding going "53mph". If they want people to go 35mph, they should just made the limit 35mph!

dheera 3y ago

NVIDIA's new GPUs have horribly confusing names. Are higher numbers better or lower numbers better? A6000? A100? A800? And H > A > V > K, I think? And there's no T100 for Tesla and J100 for Jetson? But there's a Tesla V100 (Tesla Volta 100) and a Jetson Xavier which is neither Jetson nor Xavier architecture but Volta architecture? Can we please just have monotonically increasing product names in terms of compute capacity and stop jumping around the alphabet? I know they name architectures after scientists, that's cool, but at least they could do what Ubuntu does with release names and go in alphabetical order.

riehwvfbk 3y ago
It's even worse than that. L > H > A, but that's for the data center cards. If you want the latest Ada Lovelace core in a workstation card, that's an RTX 4000 Ada Edition series (and it does not use the old Quadro naming). This is different from a Quadro RTX 4000 - that's two generations behind, a Turing. An RTX A4000 is one generation back, an Ampere. Oh, and gaming cards which may give you better performance for less are mashed into the same numbering scheme. An RTX 4070 is a gaming card, and it exist in vanilla, Super, Ti, and Ti Super flavors. And what makes a card "gaming" vs "workstation"? The first have a gaudier-looking heatsink and less memory. Makes sense, right?

kristianp 3y ago

Sorry, I posted this because this(1) page highlights the "A800 active" as new. Perhaps the model with a fan is new? (1) https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/design-visualization/desktop-graphics/#nv-accordion-d53da78f87-item-bfbfb49f10 https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/design-visualization/desktop-gr...