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It's impossible to access this content (even more so now that nitter is dead). Should HN continue driving traffic to a site that is entirely inaccessible?

zmgsabst 3y ago
I don’t understand: This link opens the post for me, while paywalled news is semi-routinely posted. What’s the objection?
- pavlov 3y ago
  The difference is that paywalled news sites require a login to access content that they themselves produced and published, while Twitter/X now requires a login to access content written by other people. In other words, paywalled news is a first party content provider, but Twitter is just a third party who inject their mandatory login between me (the reader) and the writer so they can make some profit by showing ads on the content. That's fine, but authors should consider if they want to publish on a site like that when there are so many other options.
- Mistletoe 3y ago
  Sometimes Twitter links won’t open for me now without being logged in. I’ve loved the change because it has helped me not use Twitter at all. This one opened for me though.
yreg 3y ago
hn should drive traffic wherever the content is published / mirrored. If there are multiple options, choose the most public one. We shouldn't censor ourselves and not discuss information that was posted on twitter.
- awaythrow999 3y ago
  Other paywalled content at least can be opened with archive.md and friends. Usually people here kindly post a link for convenience to archive. With twotter that no longer works. So this type of content means that in order to follow the discussion I must also be a twitter subscriber. Maybe people could consider first creating an archive.org snapshot that is then linked instead. Would be the kind thing to do and help the rest of us.
  - yreg 3y ago
    > Maybe people could consider first creating an archive.org snapshot that is then linked instead Yes, that would be the best way to handle this.
badgersnake 3y ago
Given tweets are so short, just paste the whole tweet into the text. If it’s a whole thread though then just don’t bother. That approach to blogging is just dumb.
- kibwen 3y ago
  Microblogging is a failed experiment. What a detriment to humanity.
  - badgersnake 3y ago
    I agree with you in the sense that it isn’t a constructive form of communication in the sense that the short form prevents nuance and complexity which inevitably leads to conflict. It made Trump president and gives Musk control of the media narrative though so it certainly works for some people.
stavros 3y ago
Is it really impossible? I clicked the link and saw the content fine. If you mean "impossible without signing up", I'd say it's within your rights to not want to sign up, but it's a very uncharitable definition of "impossible".
- awaythrow999 3y ago
  Impossible for me yes. Am getting prompted by a sign-up screen to join twitter.
  - School-Cotton 3y ago
    Why is it impossible for you to sign up for Twitter?
cinntaile 3y ago
I know @dang has commented on the subject before but now that Nitter is dead, it should be considered hardwalled and Twitter links should be flagged imo. There is no real workaround anymore that doesn't involve signing up.

zmgsabst 3y ago

I don’t understand: This link opens the post for me, while paywalled news is semi-routinely posted. What’s the objection?

pavlov 3y ago
The difference is that paywalled news sites require a login to access content that they themselves produced and published, while Twitter/X now requires a login to access content written by other people. In other words, paywalled news is a first party content provider, but Twitter is just a third party who inject their mandatory login between me (the reader) and the writer so they can make some profit by showing ads on the content. That's fine, but authors should consider if they want to publish on a site like that when there are so many other options.
Mistletoe 3y ago
Sometimes Twitter links won’t open for me now without being logged in. I’ve loved the change because it has helped me not use Twitter at all. This one opened for me though.

yreg 3y ago

hn should drive traffic wherever the content is published / mirrored. If there are multiple options, choose the most public one. We shouldn't censor ourselves and not discuss information that was posted on twitter.

awaythrow999 3y ago
Other paywalled content at least can be opened with archive.md and friends. Usually people here kindly post a link for convenience to archive. With twotter that no longer works. So this type of content means that in order to follow the discussion I must also be a twitter subscriber. Maybe people could consider first creating an archive.org snapshot that is then linked instead. Would be the kind thing to do and help the rest of us.
- yreg 3y ago
  > Maybe people could consider first creating an archive.org snapshot that is then linked instead Yes, that would be the best way to handle this.

badgersnake 3y ago

Given tweets are so short, just paste the whole tweet into the text. If it’s a whole thread though then just don’t bother. That approach to blogging is just dumb.

kibwen 3y ago
Microblogging is a failed experiment. What a detriment to humanity.
- badgersnake 3y ago
  I agree with you in the sense that it isn’t a constructive form of communication in the sense that the short form prevents nuance and complexity which inevitably leads to conflict. It made Trump president and gives Musk control of the media narrative though so it certainly works for some people.

stavros 3y ago

Is it really impossible? I clicked the link and saw the content fine. If you mean "impossible without signing up", I'd say it's within your rights to not want to sign up, but it's a very uncharitable definition of "impossible".

awaythrow999 3y ago
Impossible for me yes. Am getting prompted by a sign-up screen to join twitter.
- School-Cotton 3y ago
  Why is it impossible for you to sign up for Twitter?

cinntaile 3y ago

I know @dang has commented on the subject before but now that Nitter is dead, it should be considered hardwalled and Twitter links should be flagged imo. There is no real workaround anymore that doesn't involve signing up.