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Look mate, we can't even stop the economy blowing up every 10 years, and that's just a human construct. If you think that these morons can some how control the

by Guthur 3y ago

Look mate, we can't even stop the economy blowing up every 10 years, and that's just a human construct. If you think that these morons can some how control the climate i really don't know what to say. It boils down to a simple problem with two avenues of action. Problem: climate will change, it always has. Solution A: control the climate. Solution B: adapt. Which to you think is honestly achievable?

Alpha3031 3y ago
Look mate, your car has always been oxidising. What do you think is more achievable, putting out the fire I set or just adapting? What? No, of course you're not allowed to try more than one. Honestly all those non-arson factors that cause oxidation means it's pretty brain dead to assume me setting a fire had anything to do with it. You're probably just going to have to live with all your stuff being on fire, just a hazard of living in a oxygen-having environment.
netsharc 3y ago
Hah, I'm not the one you're replying to, but I pick B: adapt. Soooo easy! At this rate, we're going to kill each other fighting for scarcer resources, and the rest of us the planet's going to finish off. But hey, I'm sure you know better than all the morons.
DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
So are you arguing that it is impossible to reduce our civilization's GHG output, or that reducing it doesn't make a difference? If the latter, well, I don't know what to tell you. I showed you the numbers. Not sure what else I can do. If the former, that is a matter of opinion. Humanity has overcome problems before, and it is my opinion that we will solve this one too. > It boils down to a simple problem with two avenues of action. That is a false dichotomy. Depending on how things play out, it can also be a blend of the two. > Which to you think is honestly achievable? Both? We are already changing things at an accelerating rate and will continue to do so. Fossil fuels are getting increasingly phased out. It won't happen overnight, but it is happening. There is already exponential adoption of solar (and hopefully nuclear in the coming years) way beyond estimates from just a decade ago. Yes, humanity will adapt. But it also gets a lot easier to adapt if we reduce how much we are making it worse.

by Guthur 3y ago

Alpha3031 3y ago

Look mate, your car has always been oxidising. What do you think is more achievable, putting out the fire I set or just adapting? What? No, of course you're not allowed to try more than one. Honestly all those non-arson factors that cause oxidation means it's pretty brain dead to assume me setting a fire had anything to do with it. You're probably just going to have to live with all your stuff being on fire, just a hazard of living in a oxygen-having environment.

netsharc 3y ago

Hah, I'm not the one you're replying to, but I pick B: adapt. Soooo easy! At this rate, we're going to kill each other fighting for scarcer resources, and the rest of us the planet's going to finish off. But hey, I'm sure you know better than all the morons.

DarmokJalad1701 3y ago

So are you arguing that it is impossible to reduce our civilization's GHG output, or that reducing it doesn't make a difference? If the latter, well, I don't know what to tell you. I showed you the numbers. Not sure what else I can do. If the former, that is a matter of opinion. Humanity has overcome problems before, and it is my opinion that we will solve this one too. > It boils down to a simple problem with two avenues of action. That is a false dichotomy. Depending on how things play out, it can also be a blend of the two. > Which to you think is honestly achievable? Both? We are already changing things at an accelerating rate and will continue to do so. Fossil fuels are getting increasingly phased out. It won't happen overnight, but it is happening. There is already exponential adoption of solar (and hopefully nuclear in the coming years) way beyond estimates from just a decade ago. Yes, humanity will adapt. But it also gets a lot easier to adapt if we reduce how much we are making it worse.