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You are assuming that's what people want to see. We still have a long way to go before any human can be eliminated from the big screen. Issues with details such

You are assuming that's what people want to see. We still have a long way to go before any human can be eliminated from the big screen. Issues with details such as hands and eyes are still way to obvious.

stavros 3y ago
How do you reconcile "issues with details such as hands and eyes" and "a long way to go"? Seems to me that "details" remaining means we're almost there.
- Ygg2 3y ago
  Last 10% takes 90% of the time.
saiya-jin 3y ago
It takes hundreds of man years of various to produce even cheap looking b-movie. A-level one have easily tens of thousands of man years overall, just watch the credits on some Marvel movie and put 3-18 months of effort there. If you want to achieve almost the same for 0.1% of the cost with 1 very talented person and some computing power (or small team of talented writers/artists), it won't take long and Hollywood's business will collapse. You don't need to pay a cent to that old guy in the video. Current A-listers will slowly fade while milking their residual fame, but more importantly there won't be a next generation in same way it was till now. A major shift indeed, bigger than Hollywood ever saw. If the quality is there it will be unstoppable and unions won't make any difference, next country with more liberal laws can render very same stuff.
- stephen_g 3y ago
  The point still stands though - if people won’t pay money to see AI generated movies but will to see human made ones, then the market doesn’t collapse. As the cost of producing it drops, AI content may come to be seen as worthless background noise to culture and verified human-made media valued.
  - ildjarn 3y ago
    If people cannot tell the difference will they care?
    - saiya-jin 3y ago
      I think we need an ai to detect an ai content, but for sure it sounds like an endless arms race
- incrudible 3y ago
  I believe that the more the market will be flooded with AI content, the more the human touch will be valued.
- ildjarn 3y ago
  Yeah why pay millions to an upcoming star when you can simply license Harrison ford (again) or some cheaper alternative.
ben_w 3y ago
Star Wars used a bunch of Q-tips for a background crowd, so I disagree: https://mediachomp.com/the-podrace-crowds-in-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/ https://mediachomp.com/the-podrace-crowds-in-star-wars-the-p... Also, hand and face issues are rapidly improving, I can easily believe models like Sora getting used for replacing extras despite the flaws it still has.

stavros 3y ago

How do you reconcile "issues with details such as hands and eyes" and "a long way to go"? Seems to me that "details" remaining means we're almost there.

Ygg2 3y ago
Last 10% takes 90% of the time.

saiya-jin 3y ago

It takes hundreds of man years of various to produce even cheap looking b-movie. A-level one have easily tens of thousands of man years overall, just watch the credits on some Marvel movie and put 3-18 months of effort there. If you want to achieve almost the same for 0.1% of the cost with 1 very talented person and some computing power (or small team of talented writers/artists), it won't take long and Hollywood's business will collapse. You don't need to pay a cent to that old guy in the video. Current A-listers will slowly fade while milking their residual fame, but more importantly there won't be a next generation in same way it was till now. A major shift indeed, bigger than Hollywood ever saw. If the quality is there it will be unstoppable and unions won't make any difference, next country with more liberal laws can render very same stuff.

stephen_g 3y ago
The point still stands though - if people won’t pay money to see AI generated movies but will to see human made ones, then the market doesn’t collapse. As the cost of producing it drops, AI content may come to be seen as worthless background noise to culture and verified human-made media valued.
- ildjarn 3y ago
  If people cannot tell the difference will they care?
  - saiya-jin 3y ago
    I think we need an ai to detect an ai content, but for sure it sounds like an endless arms race
incrudible 3y ago
I believe that the more the market will be flooded with AI content, the more the human touch will be valued.
ildjarn 3y ago
Yeah why pay millions to an upcoming star when you can simply license Harrison ford (again) or some cheaper alternative.

ben_w 3y ago

Star Wars used a bunch of Q-tips for a background crowd, so I disagree: https://mediachomp.com/the-podrace-crowds-in-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/ https://mediachomp.com/the-podrace-crowds-in-star-wars-the-p... Also, hand and face issues are rapidly improving, I can easily believe models like Sora getting used for replacing extras despite the flaws it still has.