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I really hate that people glorificate ilegal activity. I'm from Mexico and now we've a big problem with Cartels, people can't work because cartels extortion the

I really hate that people glorificate ilegal activity. I'm from Mexico and now we've a big problem with Cartels, people can't work because cartels extortion them, and now they commit terrorist acts to civilian towns with dronebombs. That's not cool, but in Mexico there are also Narco corridos, that glorificates narcotrafic. It sucks, there are no place for criminal in a civilized country. They have to be hated not loved. Also >evil foreign criminals Like who?

beebeepka 3y ago
While I can see your frustration, what if the government suddenly made something you do illegal. Ever considered that one? Maybe legalization would be better for society, though who's going to reap the profits appears to be the main driving factor.
astrange 3y ago
Japan is just about the least likely country to glorify illegal activity there is. I'm not sure they'd even understand the concept half the time. It's a problem for their soft power because it means they can't do any of the cool music genres. How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? (If there's a hint any musician knows what a marijuana leaf might look like they and all their work get instantly deleted entirely from society. Although they do let music producers sexually abuse all the talents they can get their hands on.)
- williamdclt 3y ago
  > How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? Drugs and crime aren't really in the metal imagery, I'm not convinced it's the explanation (also I don't think metal culture has ever really been significant soft power, always been too niche)
  - astrange 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_scene#Church_arsons_and_attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_sc...
- tuna74 3y ago
  I am not really a fan of either rap or metal, but Japan has a very healthy scene of musicians in both genres. You don't have to commit crimes to do music.
- krapp 3y ago
  >How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? Oh no I had a list of good Japanese rock, metal and rap music right here but I seem to have dropped it... Hanabie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuFbQ-Mewfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuFbQ-Mewfw Mad Capsule Markets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1ihLf_e18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1ihLf_e18 Maximum the Hormone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN5ep5MrdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN5ep5MrdY Jiluka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEMRalCPFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEMRalCPFQ Deviloof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDENni6Pbc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDENni6Pbc Nemophila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26aMuahxz8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26aMuahxz8c Unlucky Morpheus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8i_QhOgsKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8i_QhOgsKw Ningen Isu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI79e5iZKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI79e5iZKs Band Maid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIJ2vFxu9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIJ2vFxu9Y Stereopony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV-XJdzupY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV-XJdzupY Gallhammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiWv276t78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiWv276t78 Chanmina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efcyoenRdnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efcyoenRdnE Wednesday Campanella: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1oxh8Z-2ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1oxh8Z-2ko Tokyo Gegegay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9W6rvoqIME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9W6rvoqIME
  - astrange 3y ago
    Notice I didn't say anything about rock. They are good at that. Can't have sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, but you can still have two of three.
    - krapp 3y ago
      Don't double down on your own ignorance. Japan has rock. The have punk. They have metal. They have rap. They have deathcore. Go through the list. Look up fucking Hanatarash. Take ten minutes to Google. They have everything. You don't need "sex drugs and rock and roll," you just need an appreciation for the culture and a sense of alienation and rage against an oppressive system. Which, despite your belief that Japanese people cannot even comprehend the concept of illegal activity or rebellion, they do have. You need to stop looking at people and cultures in terms of reductionist stereotypes.

beebeepka 3y ago

While I can see your frustration, what if the government suddenly made something you do illegal. Ever considered that one? Maybe legalization would be better for society, though who's going to reap the profits appears to be the main driving factor.

astrange 3y ago

Japan is just about the least likely country to glorify illegal activity there is. I'm not sure they'd even understand the concept half the time. It's a problem for their soft power because it means they can't do any of the cool music genres. How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? (If there's a hint any musician knows what a marijuana leaf might look like they and all their work get instantly deleted entirely from society. Although they do let music producers sexually abuse all the talents they can get their hands on.)

williamdclt 3y ago
> How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? Drugs and crime aren't really in the metal imagery, I'm not convinced it's the explanation (also I don't think metal culture has ever really been significant soft power, always been too niche)
- astrange 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_scene#Church_arsons_and_attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_sc...
tuna74 3y ago
I am not really a fan of either rap or metal, but Japan has a very healthy scene of musicians in both genres. You don't have to commit crimes to do music.
krapp 3y ago
>How can you have metal bands or rappers if none of them are allowed to do drugs or commit any crimes? Oh no I had a list of good Japanese rock, metal and rap music right here but I seem to have dropped it... Hanabie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuFbQ-Mewfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuFbQ-Mewfw Mad Capsule Markets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1ihLf_e18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1ihLf_e18 Maximum the Hormone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN5ep5MrdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN5ep5MrdY Jiluka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEMRalCPFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEMRalCPFQ Deviloof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDENni6Pbc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWDENni6Pbc Nemophila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26aMuahxz8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26aMuahxz8c Unlucky Morpheus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8i_QhOgsKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8i_QhOgsKw Ningen Isu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI79e5iZKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI79e5iZKs Band Maid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIJ2vFxu9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIJ2vFxu9Y Stereopony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV-XJdzupY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV-XJdzupY Gallhammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiWv276t78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiWv276t78 Chanmina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efcyoenRdnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efcyoenRdnE Wednesday Campanella: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1oxh8Z-2ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1oxh8Z-2ko Tokyo Gegegay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9W6rvoqIME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9W6rvoqIME
- astrange 3y ago
  Notice I didn't say anything about rock. They are good at that. Can't have sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, but you can still have two of three.
  - krapp 3y ago
    Don't double down on your own ignorance. Japan has rock. The have punk. They have metal. They have rap. They have deathcore. Go through the list. Look up fucking Hanatarash. Take ten minutes to Google. They have everything. You don't need "sex drugs and rock and roll," you just need an appreciation for the culture and a sense of alienation and rage against an oppressive system. Which, despite your belief that Japanese people cannot even comprehend the concept of illegal activity or rebellion, they do have. You need to stop looking at people and cultures in terms of reductionist stereotypes.