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Maybe the site of Worldcon is what should be "censored" (vetted and altered) by the organizers.

TheCoelacanth 3y ago
There's not really any organizers who could make that decision. The organizers are just whoever won the vote to run the conference that year. There's no actual organization that persists from year to year.
- michaelmrose 3y ago
  Maybe there shouldn't be one one next year then. I know I plan to ignore them thereafter no matter what they do and I hardly think I'm the only one.
- persnickety 3y ago
  That selection criterion means there is some continuity and persistent organization. Otherwise I could announce a Worldcon unilaterally and no one would have the grounds to stop me.
  - TheCoelacanth 3y ago
    The only standing committee is the Mark Protection Committee which has the power to enforce trademarks and nothing else. They couldn't do anything to change the location.
    - toyg 3y ago
      Surely they could refuse to endorse the event, retracting any right to the "Hugo Awards" brand. The event would have to use another name, which would highlight the schism. Obviously a dangerous game, as the committee would attract more scrutiny on its composition and role as ultimate owner of the brand, but probably worth considering as a nuclear option in case, say, "fans" vote for Saudi Arabia next year (yes, "fans" - I'm sure any semi-competent state actor can easily stuff ballots in polls like these...).
      - TheCoelacanth 3y ago
        That's the equivalent of the "Mike Pence can make Donald Trump president" theory. They administer the trademark according to the rules laid out in the WSFS constitution; they don't decide who is allowed to use the trademark. The Chengdu bid won the vote legitimately. They would have been massively overstepping their authority to try to prevent it. It's unlikely they could have even won a court case if they tried to prevent it.
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There's not really any organizers who could make that decision. The organizers are just whoever won the vote to run the conference that year. There's no actual organization that persists from year to year.

michaelmrose 3y ago
Maybe there shouldn't be one one next year then. I know I plan to ignore them thereafter no matter what they do and I hardly think I'm the only one.
persnickety 3y ago
That selection criterion means there is some continuity and persistent organization. Otherwise I could announce a Worldcon unilaterally and no one would have the grounds to stop me.
- TheCoelacanth 3y ago
  The only standing committee is the Mark Protection Committee which has the power to enforce trademarks and nothing else. They couldn't do anything to change the location.
  - toyg 3y ago
    Surely they could refuse to endorse the event, retracting any right to the "Hugo Awards" brand. The event would have to use another name, which would highlight the schism. Obviously a dangerous game, as the committee would attract more scrutiny on its composition and role as ultimate owner of the brand, but probably worth considering as a nuclear option in case, say, "fans" vote for Saudi Arabia next year (yes, "fans" - I'm sure any semi-competent state actor can easily stuff ballots in polls like these...).
    - TheCoelacanth 3y ago
      That's the equivalent of the "Mike Pence can make Donald Trump president" theory. They administer the trademark according to the rules laid out in the WSFS constitution; they don't decide who is allowed to use the trademark. The Chengdu bid won the vote legitimately. They would have been massively overstepping their authority to try to prevent it. It's unlikely they could have even won a court case if they tried to prevent it.
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