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On the ps3 or ps4, using google's dns speeded up network downloads :) Does anyone suspect Sony of knowing how to make online services?

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Well, they seem to know better than Nintendo…
type0 3y ago
they do know how to make rootkits
- tonetegeatinst 3y ago
  Can I get the source for that? And any sourcecode + how they legally got away with it in court?
  - prettyStandard 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - nemomarx 3y ago
    https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/11/5514-2/ https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/11/5514-2/ it's a pretty old story at this point but you can start from here?
  - causality0 3y ago
    Why would you expect them to get in legal trouble? As long as it's covered in the EULA software can do whatever it wants to your computer.
    - boomboomsubban 3y ago
      Their rootkit famously installed even if you rejected the EULA, so they did get in trouble. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...
  - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
    It's sad that those stories get forgotten. Like IE6, or Microsoft bullying and corruption. HP conning users with their printers. Apple iphone home button scandal. It just means bad actors can abuse clients again and again, and with a little PR and some time passing, they can get billions in without consequences.
- mortenjorck 3y ago
  Given that the last one they shipped was 19 years ago, I’m not sure that expertise still exists in-house.
astrange 3y ago
That sounds like a problem with your default DNS server, it's not like Sony provides one.
- bogantech 3y ago
  ISP DNS can be dumb and confuse CDN geolocation. When I lived in Malmö my ISP DNS would result in Akamai CDN content being served from Stockholm rather than Copenhagen which was a lot closer and faster. When I switched to 1.1.1.1 this problem went away
  - viraptor 3y ago
    It's not that they're dumb, it's more that geolocation is just guessing. There will be mistakes and edge cases and setups which can't be geolocated. The only dumb part here would be providing a service where you can't override the download server. (Or relying entirely on the DNS rather than probing the speed)
    - worik 3y ago
      > it's more that geolocation is just guessing. Does DNS care about geolocation? It measures distance in b/s dose it not?
      - viraptor 3y ago
        You can have DNS with different answers provided to different locations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS The issue starts when you move from your hotspot to your wifi and keep the cached results. Or your ISP has a large address pool that's used between multiple states/countries. Or the caching DNS server gets a different answer than you would get directly. Or .... It's a mess.
        worik 3y ago
        > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS I did not know that Is it widely used?

gjsman-1000 3y ago

Well, they seem to know better than Nintendo…

type0 3y ago

they do know how to make rootkits

tonetegeatinst 3y ago
Can I get the source for that? And any sourcecode + how they legally got away with it in court?
- prettyStandard 3y ago
  [flagged]
- nemomarx 3y ago
  https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/11/5514-2/ https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/11/5514-2/ it's a pretty old story at this point but you can start from here?
- causality0 3y ago
  Why would you expect them to get in legal trouble? As long as it's covered in the EULA software can do whatever it wants to your computer.
  - boomboomsubban 3y ago
    Their rootkit famously installed even if you rejected the EULA, so they did get in trouble. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  It's sad that those stories get forgotten. Like IE6, or Microsoft bullying and corruption. HP conning users with their printers. Apple iphone home button scandal. It just means bad actors can abuse clients again and again, and with a little PR and some time passing, they can get billions in without consequences.
mortenjorck 3y ago
Given that the last one they shipped was 19 years ago, I’m not sure that expertise still exists in-house.

astrange 3y ago

That sounds like a problem with your default DNS server, it's not like Sony provides one.

bogantech 3y ago
ISP DNS can be dumb and confuse CDN geolocation. When I lived in Malmö my ISP DNS would result in Akamai CDN content being served from Stockholm rather than Copenhagen which was a lot closer and faster. When I switched to 1.1.1.1 this problem went away
- viraptor 3y ago
  It's not that they're dumb, it's more that geolocation is just guessing. There will be mistakes and edge cases and setups which can't be geolocated. The only dumb part here would be providing a service where you can't override the download server. (Or relying entirely on the DNS rather than probing the speed)
  - worik 3y ago
    > it's more that geolocation is just guessing. Does DNS care about geolocation? It measures distance in b/s dose it not?
    - viraptor 3y ago
      You can have DNS with different answers provided to different locations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS The issue starts when you move from your hotspot to your wifi and keep the cached results. Or your ISP has a large address pool that's used between multiple states/countries. Or the caching DNS server gets a different answer than you would get directly. Or .... It's a mess.
      - worik 3y ago
        > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoDNS I did not know that Is it widely used?