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There's no British ID card, and some people have no photographic identification (passport, driving licence) or don't routinely carry any. Also, voter ID fraud

There's no British ID card, and some people have no photographic identification (passport, driving licence) or don't routinely carry any. Also, voter ID fraud very rarely happens, and is detectable when it does happen - when you vote, the ask for your name and address. Voter ID was recently introduced and now many people are turned away without being able to vote - which is far more likely to change the result of an election than ID fraud.

bakuninsbart 3y ago
Being Germans, the idea of someone not being able to identify themselves is inconceivable, worse even; illegal. Of course this precludes many homeless people from voting, and often from receiving other services, but order must be held in higher regards than compassion.
- bobsmooth 3y ago
  >order must be held in higher regards than compassion This is the most German statement I have ever heard.
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- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  "but order must be held in higher regards than compassion." Don't project. Having helped homeless people and seeing many people help homeless people in Germany, I don't think I have ever heard a more stereo typing comment on Hackernews. And if you're German (or somewhere else), I hope you have given to causes for the homeless, or organized something on your own, because talk is cheap.
zabzonk 3y ago
> Voter ID was recently introduced really, just conservative gerrymandering.
- TechnicalVault 3y ago
  The irony was that it was a footgun move for them given their demographics. Most young people of voting age are likely to have a driving license, if only so that they can drink. Unfortunately for the Conservatives these folks are unlikely to vote for them. Many old people, on the other hand have no current driving license or passport and are unlikely to carry their expired ID around with them. These were conservative voters, but two trips to the polling both may be a bit much for them.

bakuninsbart 3y ago

Being Germans, the idea of someone not being able to identify themselves is inconceivable, worse even; illegal. Of course this precludes many homeless people from voting, and often from receiving other services, but order must be held in higher regards than compassion.

bobsmooth 3y ago
>order must be held in higher regards than compassion This is the most German statement I have ever heard.
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KingOfCoders 3y ago
"but order must be held in higher regards than compassion." Don't project. Having helped homeless people and seeing many people help homeless people in Germany, I don't think I have ever heard a more stereo typing comment on Hackernews. And if you're German (or somewhere else), I hope you have given to causes for the homeless, or organized something on your own, because talk is cheap.

zabzonk 3y ago

> Voter ID was recently introduced really, just conservative gerrymandering.

TechnicalVault 3y ago
The irony was that it was a footgun move for them given their demographics. Most young people of voting age are likely to have a driving license, if only so that they can drink. Unfortunately for the Conservatives these folks are unlikely to vote for them. Many old people, on the other hand have no current driving license or passport and are unlikely to carry their expired ID around with them. These were conservative voters, but two trips to the polling both may be a bit much for them.