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the problem is the scale of the content is so big that no company is actually willing to have humans review all the claims.

tokai 3y ago
That should really be their problem to solve.
realusername 3y ago
If they can't even notice the abuse, does the abuse even matter? I think that's the core problem here.
- dangrossman 3y ago
  Imagine you're Disney and you want to crack down on merchandise infringing on your IP. You type [site:etsy.com "minnie mouse"] into Google and get 3.8 million results. There's another million results for "iron man", 2.1 million for "avengers", 6.8 million for "star wars", etc. That's just the likely infringement on a single marketplace. I don't think this is a scale too small to notice. How many people would Disney have to employ to review every listing before making a claim, and continue to do so as fast as the world population can make additional unlicensed copies?
  - realusername 3y ago
    Maybe they just don't need to simply? I understand they would like as much control as possible but that's impossible with the abundance of choices and places nowadays and I firmly think that those automated blind takedowns are doing more harm than good. I don't think total control is possible in such an environment, DMCA or not.
  - devmor 3y ago
    With all due respect, that sounds like a problem for Disney. I do not see why a corporations scale of intellectual property protection should have its burden foisted upon everyone else. It makes to sense to provide a modicum of protection that can apply to individuals, but just as individuals can't require a policeman to stand guard outside their home 24/7, corporations must hire security guards if they want extra protection from the undesirable elements their commercial activity attracts.
j-bos 3y ago
Seems like a problem for automation to solve, automation takes existing jobs, workers transition servicing in niche's that are currently lacking, like all forms of moderation and review. Oversimplified of course.
Larrikin 3y ago
Imagine if large real estate developers could say that they are constructing too many buildings to make sure they are all up to code. Society has no obligation to make sure companies can scale as fast as possible.

tokai 3y ago

That should really be their problem to solve.

realusername 3y ago

If they can't even notice the abuse, does the abuse even matter? I think that's the core problem here.

dangrossman 3y ago
Imagine you're Disney and you want to crack down on merchandise infringing on your IP. You type [site:etsy.com "minnie mouse"] into Google and get 3.8 million results. There's another million results for "iron man", 2.1 million for "avengers", 6.8 million for "star wars", etc. That's just the likely infringement on a single marketplace. I don't think this is a scale too small to notice. How many people would Disney have to employ to review every listing before making a claim, and continue to do so as fast as the world population can make additional unlicensed copies?
- realusername 3y ago
  Maybe they just don't need to simply? I understand they would like as much control as possible but that's impossible with the abundance of choices and places nowadays and I firmly think that those automated blind takedowns are doing more harm than good. I don't think total control is possible in such an environment, DMCA or not.
- devmor 3y ago
  With all due respect, that sounds like a problem for Disney. I do not see why a corporations scale of intellectual property protection should have its burden foisted upon everyone else. It makes to sense to provide a modicum of protection that can apply to individuals, but just as individuals can't require a policeman to stand guard outside their home 24/7, corporations must hire security guards if they want extra protection from the undesirable elements their commercial activity attracts.

j-bos 3y ago

Seems like a problem for automation to solve, automation takes existing jobs, workers transition servicing in niche's that are currently lacking, like all forms of moderation and review. Oversimplified of course.

Larrikin 3y ago

Imagine if large real estate developers could say that they are constructing too many buildings to make sure they are all up to code. Society has no obligation to make sure companies can scale as fast as possible.