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The maximised window behaviour is the thing that bugs me the most as a primarily Linux user lumbered with a work-Mac. It's so weird to treat that as being on a

The maximised window behaviour is the thing that bugs me the most as a primarily Linux user lumbered with a work-Mac. It's so weird to treat that as being on a different virtual desktop. Better than the Lion days when your second monitor could only show "brushed steel" if you had an app maximised, but not by much.

jwells89 3y ago
Double-clicking the titlebar should yield a more traditional maximize behavior, except in non-native apps which don’t replicate full native titlebar functionality. For those hovering over the green button with option pressed will show an option for traditional maximize.
- dcminter 3y ago
  As I recall - and my distaste for the work laptop is such that I'll defer checking until Monday - that leaves all the window decorations in place and generally wastes screen real-estate. I get that this is the way of Mac - I just don't really get why anyone would like that.
  - jwells89 3y ago
    Windows and the popular Linux DEs leave chrome of maximized windows in place as well. The only place you won’t find this is in niche window managers.
samatman 3y ago
I use Moom, so maximizing a window without setting it to its own space is ctrl-cmd-z-space. Moom does a lot more than that, it's worth checking out, especially if you plug into external monitors as part of your workflow. With that setup, I'm quite content with full screen putting the window in its own space. It's an affordance I use fairly frequently, in fact. Just not as often as maximizing the window within the space it already inhabits.
- dcminter 3y ago
  Being a work machine it's pretty locked down (compliance reasons); I don't have the option of installing much non-standard stuff. I don't want to be unduly unfair - on the one hand, it's faintly annoying that Mac people always say "oh you just need to install ${widget}" ... but I realise that we do the same on Linux: "you just need to apt-get ${widget}" ! We have the illusion that that's part of the OS.
  - samatman 3y ago
    For the most part I think it's irrelevant whether some bit of software is provided by Apple or a third party, I see weird hissy-fits about, say, the fact that keyboard customization on macOS uses Karabiner, and I just don't get it. Yes, none of the three+ package managers used on macOS are built in, why would anyone care about that, what possible difference could that make. But work restrictions are one of the circumstances where the difference becomes a practical one, and getting your company to relax the restrictions may be infeasible, or more effort than it's worth.

jwells89 3y ago

Double-clicking the titlebar should yield a more traditional maximize behavior, except in non-native apps which don’t replicate full native titlebar functionality. For those hovering over the green button with option pressed will show an option for traditional maximize.

dcminter 3y ago
As I recall - and my distaste for the work laptop is such that I'll defer checking until Monday - that leaves all the window decorations in place and generally wastes screen real-estate. I get that this is the way of Mac - I just don't really get why anyone would like that.
- jwells89 3y ago
  Windows and the popular Linux DEs leave chrome of maximized windows in place as well. The only place you won’t find this is in niche window managers.

samatman 3y ago

I use Moom, so maximizing a window without setting it to its own space is ctrl-cmd-z-space. Moom does a lot more than that, it's worth checking out, especially if you plug into external monitors as part of your workflow. With that setup, I'm quite content with full screen putting the window in its own space. It's an affordance I use fairly frequently, in fact. Just not as often as maximizing the window within the space it already inhabits.

dcminter 3y ago
Being a work machine it's pretty locked down (compliance reasons); I don't have the option of installing much non-standard stuff. I don't want to be unduly unfair - on the one hand, it's faintly annoying that Mac people always say "oh you just need to install ${widget}" ... but I realise that we do the same on Linux: "you just need to apt-get ${widget}" ! We have the illusion that that's part of the OS.
- samatman 3y ago
  For the most part I think it's irrelevant whether some bit of software is provided by Apple or a third party, I see weird hissy-fits about, say, the fact that keyboard customization on macOS uses Karabiner, and I just don't get it. Yes, none of the three+ package managers used on macOS are built in, why would anyone care about that, what possible difference could that make. But work restrictions are one of the circumstances where the difference becomes a practical one, and getting your company to relax the restrictions may be infeasible, or more effort than it's worth.