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> After discovering Chrome are eating my old Mac's battery, I turned to using Edge What? Have they tried using Safari instead of a Chromium based browser? From

by KAdot 3y ago

> After discovering Chrome are eating my old Mac's battery, I turned to using Edge What? Have they tried using Safari instead of a Chromium based browser? From my experience Safari is by far the best browser on Mac in terms of the energy efficiency.

Guillaume86 3y ago
He does front end dev.
- OJFord 3y ago
  Aside from testing multiple browsers, that'd make me think you want Chrome or Firefox primarily, if any difference at all they probably have best/most tooling?
  - jwells89 3y ago
    All of the Chrome-clones (Edge, Vivaldi, Opera, Arc, etc) have identical dev tooling and extension support because they’re all just Chrome with mostly-surface-level tweaks applied.
    - OJFord 3y ago
      I didn't realise Edge was such. Why would it make any significant difference to energy usage then?
    - hollerith 3y ago
      "Identical extension support" is untrue: Brave is a Chrome clone, and it intends to keep supporting manifest v2.
- timeon 3y ago
  If you test for Safari+Firefox it would probably work in chrome as well.
sgt 3y ago
And also now arguably the best browser in terms of the standards, after hiring most of the w3c team.
- ajross 3y ago
  I think that argument falls down in the face of the PWA mess in Europe. Standards-based application platforms, to Apple, are at best, a means to an end. And they'll throw them out the second they perceive them in competition with native apps. It's the same recipe followed by MS in the 90's.
  - samatman 3y ago
    macOS and iOS are different programs.
    - ajross 3y ago
      Run by the same management. I think an argument of the form "OK, they're trying to kill browser apps on iOS but clearly they love standards and would never do that on a Mac" is unpersuasive.
      - samatman 3y ago
        People have been making dire predictions that macOS will get locked down like iOS since the days when it was called iPhone OS. Not a single step down that slippery slope has ever occurred. But hey, keep preaching doom, if it entertains you. Just don't expect other people to take you seriously, given the track record.
        ajross 3y ago
        If on Monday of last week someone had predicted Apple would kill off web apps on iOS, you'd have surely given exactly the same response. And so on Saturday, now they they have, I find that unpersuasive. Make that of it what you will. One person's "preaching doom" is another's "reasoning from evidence".
lijok 3y ago
I switched from FF to Safari to try it out a few weeks ago and the fact I can't click Command+D when I'm on a page I've bookmarked, to remove the bookmark, is killing me. Other than that, it's been great.

by KAdot 3y ago

Guillaume86 3y ago

He does front end dev.

OJFord 3y ago
Aside from testing multiple browsers, that'd make me think you want Chrome or Firefox primarily, if any difference at all they probably have best/most tooling?
- jwells89 3y ago
  All of the Chrome-clones (Edge, Vivaldi, Opera, Arc, etc) have identical dev tooling and extension support because they’re all just Chrome with mostly-surface-level tweaks applied.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    I didn't realise Edge was such. Why would it make any significant difference to energy usage then?
  - hollerith 3y ago
    "Identical extension support" is untrue: Brave is a Chrome clone, and it intends to keep supporting manifest v2.
timeon 3y ago
If you test for Safari+Firefox it would probably work in chrome as well.

sgt 3y ago

And also now arguably the best browser in terms of the standards, after hiring most of the w3c team.

ajross 3y ago
I think that argument falls down in the face of the PWA mess in Europe. Standards-based application platforms, to Apple, are at best, a means to an end. And they'll throw them out the second they perceive them in competition with native apps. It's the same recipe followed by MS in the 90's.
- samatman 3y ago
  macOS and iOS are different programs.
  - ajross 3y ago
    Run by the same management. I think an argument of the form "OK, they're trying to kill browser apps on iOS but clearly they love standards and would never do that on a Mac" is unpersuasive.
    - samatman 3y ago
      People have been making dire predictions that macOS will get locked down like iOS since the days when it was called iPhone OS. Not a single step down that slippery slope has ever occurred. But hey, keep preaching doom, if it entertains you. Just don't expect other people to take you seriously, given the track record.
      - ajross 3y ago
        If on Monday of last week someone had predicted Apple would kill off web apps on iOS, you'd have surely given exactly the same response. And so on Saturday, now they they have, I find that unpersuasive. Make that of it what you will. One person's "preaching doom" is another's "reasoning from evidence".

lijok 3y ago

I switched from FF to Safari to try it out a few weeks ago and the fact I can't click Command+D when I'm on a page I've bookmarked, to remove the bookmark, is killing me. Other than that, it's been great.