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> From 75 hours of footage taken at San Diego and Leipzig zoos, scientists documented 142 clear instances of great apes teasing their compadres Less than 2 tea
by sieste 3y ago
> From 75 hours of footage taken at San Diego and Leipzig zoos, scientists documented 142 clear instances of great apes teasing their compadres
Less than 2 teases per hour! I wish some juvenile homo sapiens I know were that well behaved.
- LoveMortuus 3y agoThe article indicates that you might have to react sooner, for them to stop sooner. I remember when I was younger, and I did that, but because I was their third child they were kind of already annoyed, so my parents' reaction was immediate and usually quite shouty. I do find it adorable seeing these juveniles annoy the elderly.
- zmgsabst 3y agoGame theory tells us the most effective strategy is matching their energy until they shift modalities. Sometimes, adults deny this truth to their own detriment because they’re “smart” or “civilized”.
- sieste 3y agoInteresting, what's the game theory argument for this strategy?
- zmgsabst 3y agoIterated prisoner’s dilemma. The optimal strategy is signaling alliance (to receptive partners); after that, it’s reciprocating behavior. Teenagers (and many adults) aren’t willing to ally, so we’re left with reciprocating. Until they accept being allies is a good idea.
- CrazyStat 3y agoGame theory does not tell us that tit for tat is generally optimal. It tells us that it is optimal for a specific game with specific rules and payouts. It is a mistake to try to translate that to using a tit for tat strategy in general, where the rules and payouts are usually quite different.
- _Algernon_ 3y agoIt's not even always the optimal strategy playing prisoner's dilemma. If all your opponents are playing "always defect", playing Tit-for-tat will consistently lose (because of the initial good-faith attempt at cooperation).
- knightoffaith 3y agoRight - if I recall, the story is that there were computer-simulated tournaments in which different strategies for playing the iterated prisoner's dilemma were pitted against each other, and tit-for-tat is the strategy that emerged to be the winner. So it's an empirical result showing that it is generally the most successful strategy, not mathematically shown to be optimal against every strategy.
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- tremon 3y agoIt's not about the specific game nor the specific payout. When raising children, it's more important to teach/demonstrate that negative behaviour does have negative consequences.
- CrazyStat 3y agoI was responding to a claim about what game theory tells us.
- pharrington 3y ago>Game theory tells us What game is being played? What are the rewards for winning?
- codersfocus 3y ago1: Can I get their attention 2: Not being hassled for your attention
- mharig 3y agoThat is why many behavioural biologists study fish. Many more social interactions per hour, and principally the same interactions.