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Did you stay vegan after switching? I.e., are you getting your protein calories via a vegan diet?

spondylosaurus 3y ago
Also curious about this. I don't eat meat (but I do eat dairy when my stomach lets me) and it's very difficult for me to get enough protein... mostly because the protein-rich meat-free options mess me up in high quantities. But there's gotta be some good option out there that I'm missing!
- Loveaway 3y ago
  Maybe try Soylent & Co. My favorite is Mana. Been drinking it for a while now, seems to be really good for you. Very convient too. Should be way more popular I think.
  - spondylosaurus 3y ago
    Ooh, thanks for the rec! I'd like to try something in that vein after my gut and I are on better terms, but it's hard to choose from all the brands out there. I've never heard of Mana till now but it looks less funky than some of the alternatives (Huel... lol).
aurareturn 3y ago
No, I went off a vegan diet. Switched to eating a lot of egg whites, chicken and some fish. Occasionally red meat. Also drinking lactose free milk with my coffee and eating cheese sometimes. It’s hard to get enough protein from a vegan diet and without enough protein, it’s harder to decrease fat %. Also, I have a problem digesting beans so one of the main source of vegan protein is not practical for me. I’m on a break even calorie diet right now and keeping the weight off. I’m also still breaking personal records at the gym despite maintaining the same weight which suggests my body is still getting lower in fat %.
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  It’s trivial to get plant protein. Extra firm tofu, tempeh, seitan, and TVP rival meat, though they tend to be novel for most people here. Certainly were for me. I eat this tofu scramble almost daily: https://youtu.be/Vc5pZ-PY-H8 https://youtu.be/Vc5pZ-PY-H8
  - aurareturn 3y ago
    I agree that it’s possible to eat enough protein on a vegan diet. But it’s easier to do it on a non vegan diet. For example, chicken has higher protein per 100g than tempeh while having lower calories. In addition, I could also drink whey protein which is cheaper, and have higher protein per calorie than vegan protein powder. My goal was to lose weight and get visible abs. It’s just easier to do it on a non vegan diet.
    - doc_gunthrop 3y ago
      Bioavailability of protein from vegetables is significantly less than from animals.
      - hombre_fatal 3y ago
        That statement usually comes from a misinterpretation of PDCAAS which only measures the limiting amino acid in a food. If you put any weight behind PDCAAS, then you have to grant that plant proteins have perfect PDCAAS scores if you eat more than one plant. But there's research on strength performance outcomes on plant protein, those eating enough plant protein in total don't have any different outcomes. I don't see why this would move the needle for you.
    - hombre_fatal 3y ago
      It's harder to do it on a vegan diet if you don't eat high protein foods, and those foods might be novel to you, sure. But you said "It’s hard to get enough protein from a vegan diet", not "I was unwilling to eat the food". So of course I'm going to step in. Protein density isn't all that different, but seitan and tvp are even more dense per calorie. - extra firm tofu 14g protein, 130 cal. 0.11g/cal - tempeh 51g, 510 cal. 0.10g/cal - chicken breast 27g, 184cal = 0.15g/cal - chicken thigh 28g, 240cal = 0.12g/cal - seitan 21g, 106cal -> 0.20g/cal - tvp (soy chunks) 50g, 330cal = 0.15g/cal TVP is cooler than it seems if you were to google it. You basically treat it like dried ground beef in a bag. It's also ultra-cheap. For example, you'd dump it into a bolognese pasta sauce instead of ground beef and it comes out the same.

Also curious about this. I don't eat meat (but I do eat dairy when my stomach lets me) and it's very difficult for me to get enough protein... mostly because the protein-rich meat-free options mess me up in high quantities. But there's gotta be some good option out there that I'm missing!

Loveaway 3y ago
Maybe try Soylent & Co. My favorite is Mana. Been drinking it for a while now, seems to be really good for you. Very convient too. Should be way more popular I think.
- spondylosaurus 3y ago
  Ooh, thanks for the rec! I'd like to try something in that vein after my gut and I are on better terms, but it's hard to choose from all the brands out there. I've never heard of Mana till now but it looks less funky than some of the alternatives (Huel... lol).

aurareturn 3y ago

No, I went off a vegan diet. Switched to eating a lot of egg whites, chicken and some fish. Occasionally red meat. Also drinking lactose free milk with my coffee and eating cheese sometimes. It’s hard to get enough protein from a vegan diet and without enough protein, it’s harder to decrease fat %. Also, I have a problem digesting beans so one of the main source of vegan protein is not practical for me. I’m on a break even calorie diet right now and keeping the weight off. I’m also still breaking personal records at the gym despite maintaining the same weight which suggests my body is still getting lower in fat %.

hombre_fatal 3y ago
It’s trivial to get plant protein. Extra firm tofu, tempeh, seitan, and TVP rival meat, though they tend to be novel for most people here. Certainly were for me. I eat this tofu scramble almost daily: https://youtu.be/Vc5pZ-PY-H8 https://youtu.be/Vc5pZ-PY-H8
- aurareturn 3y ago
  I agree that it’s possible to eat enough protein on a vegan diet. But it’s easier to do it on a non vegan diet. For example, chicken has higher protein per 100g than tempeh while having lower calories. In addition, I could also drink whey protein which is cheaper, and have higher protein per calorie than vegan protein powder. My goal was to lose weight and get visible abs. It’s just easier to do it on a non vegan diet.
  - doc_gunthrop 3y ago
    Bioavailability of protein from vegetables is significantly less than from animals.
    - hombre_fatal 3y ago
      That statement usually comes from a misinterpretation of PDCAAS which only measures the limiting amino acid in a food. If you put any weight behind PDCAAS, then you have to grant that plant proteins have perfect PDCAAS scores if you eat more than one plant. But there's research on strength performance outcomes on plant protein, those eating enough plant protein in total don't have any different outcomes. I don't see why this would move the needle for you.
  - hombre_fatal 3y ago
    It's harder to do it on a vegan diet if you don't eat high protein foods, and those foods might be novel to you, sure. But you said "It’s hard to get enough protein from a vegan diet", not "I was unwilling to eat the food". So of course I'm going to step in. Protein density isn't all that different, but seitan and tvp are even more dense per calorie. - extra firm tofu 14g protein, 130 cal. 0.11g/cal - tempeh 51g, 510 cal. 0.10g/cal - chicken breast 27g, 184cal = 0.15g/cal - chicken thigh 28g, 240cal = 0.12g/cal - seitan 21g, 106cal -> 0.20g/cal - tvp (soy chunks) 50g, 330cal = 0.15g/cal TVP is cooler than it seems if you were to google it. You basically treat it like dried ground beef in a bag. It's also ultra-cheap. For example, you'd dump it into a bolognese pasta sauce instead of ground beef and it comes out the same.