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IIRC, the browser builds of Pyxel games end up pulling down 30mb+ of Python libraries, which seems a bit overkill for little pixel games. TIC-80 is probably th

IIRC, the browser builds of Pyxel games end up pulling down 30mb+ of Python libraries, which seems a bit overkill for little pixel games. TIC-80 is probably the closest open source thing to PICO-8. The browser builds ran 10% slower than the desktop app last I tried. It doesn't have a "CPU budget," so it's possible to write inefficient code that works fine on powerful machines but not slower ones.

vunderba 3y ago
So I just ran a test deploy of a Pyxel little animated star field: https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred. Still more than I would have expected for literally just a small looping animation but a bit better than 30MB at least. Maybe there's been some progress on this front. Thanks for the TIC-80 recommendation - I really like that it supports multiple langs (Lua, JS, Python, etc) - that's some great flexibility. EDIT: It looks like TIC-80 games pull a tic80.wasm file which is approximately ~6MB in size. I'd say Pyxel and TIC-80 are roughly comparable at least with respect to bundle size. https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm
- filleduchaos 3y ago
  > Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred Bytes transferred over the wire don't equal actual file size (due to gzipping, etc). Your page actually weighs 21MB.
  - vunderba 3y ago
    Yes, I'm well aware of that - but your average viewer isn't going to notice expanded resources, however they ARE going to notice things like time-to-first-byte and network transfer. EDIT: Just to be clear since I can't edit the older comment - instead of bundle size it would have been better to say that the "network transfer size" is roughly comparable.

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IIRC, the browser builds of Pyxel games end up pulling down 30mb+ of Python libraries, which seems a bit overkill for little pixel games. TIC-80 is probably th

by jamesgeck0 3y ago

vunderba 3y ago
So I just ran a test deploy of a Pyxel little animated star field: https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred. Still more than I would have expected for literally just a small looping animation but a bit better than 30MB at least. Maybe there's been some progress on this front. Thanks for the TIC-80 recommendation - I really like that it supports multiple langs (Lua, JS, Python, etc) - that's some great flexibility. EDIT: It looks like TIC-80 games pull a tic80.wasm file which is approximately ~6MB in size. I'd say Pyxel and TIC-80 are roughly comparable at least with respect to bundle size. https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm
- filleduchaos 3y ago
  > Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred Bytes transferred over the wire don't equal actual file size (due to gzipping, etc). Your page actually weighs 21MB.
  - vunderba 3y ago
    Yes, I'm well aware of that - but your average viewer isn't going to notice expanded resources, however they ARE going to notice things like time-to-first-byte and network transfer. EDIT: Just to be clear since I can't edit the older comment - instead of bundle size it would have been better to say that the "network transfer size" is roughly comparable.