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Warning: Ballpark numbers ahead The 2022 budget was $1.2T across all welfare programs[0]. This includes programs people don't normally consider welfare such as

Warning: Ballpark numbers ahead The 2022 budget was $1.2T across all welfare programs[0]. This includes programs people don't normally consider welfare such as the Child Tax Credit and parts of the Pell Grant. There are currently 350M people in the USA [1]. $1.2T / 350M People is $3,428/person/year. Please note that while significantly less, there will still be some overhead in the UBI program so the actual number is lower. This also doesn't include state budgets for welfare. [0] https://budget.house.gov/press-release/7582 https://budget.house.gov/press-release/7582 [1] https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/ https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population...

HideousKojima 3y ago
Meanwhile, the median social security recipient gets about $1,700 per month. I don't think most people are going to get behind a "Rob grandma's pension so a bunch of college socialists can write poetry instead of working (and even then actually can't because they're bad at math)" program.
- gamepsys 3y ago
  Social security is another $1.4T/year budget that is not considered welfare [0]. Medicare is another $0.9B [1] that isn't considered welfalre [1]. If we raided these programs, along with the previously mentioned programs, we reach an annual budget of $3.5T. The per person math is $10,000/person/year. A two person household would very near the federal poverty line.[2] It's starting to look like it could be viable if we add state budgets into the mix, and find another solution for elderly healthcare. [0] https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-fed... [1] https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-reports/national-health-expenditure-data/nhe-fact-sheet https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-repo... [2] https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/poverty-economic-mobility/poverty-guidelines https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/poverty-economic-mobility/povert...

HideousKojima 3y ago

Meanwhile, the median social security recipient gets about $1,700 per month. I don't think most people are going to get behind a "Rob grandma's pension so a bunch of college socialists can write poetry instead of working (and even then actually can't because they're bad at math)" program.

gamepsys 3y ago
Social security is another $1.4T/year budget that is not considered welfare [0]. Medicare is another $0.9B [1] that isn't considered welfalre [1]. If we raided these programs, along with the previously mentioned programs, we reach an annual budget of $3.5T. The per person math is $10,000/person/year. A two person household would very near the federal poverty line.[2] It's starting to look like it could be viable if we add state budgets into the mix, and find another solution for elderly healthcare. [0] https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-fed... [1] https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-reports/national-health-expenditure-data/nhe-fact-sheet https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-repo... [2] https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/poverty-economic-mobility/poverty-guidelines https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/poverty-economic-mobility/povert...