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Money isn't zero sum. We've never let such concerns interfere with funding wars.
by kevingadd 3y ago
Money isn't zero sum. We've never let such concerns interfere with funding wars.
- pfannkuchen 3y agoThis isn’t an argument. What do you say to someone who doesn’t think ubi will scale and who is also anti war?
- riskable 3y agoJust declare a war on needless bureaucracy or something. No need for actual violence.
- kevingadd 3y agoI'd have to see their argument. A basic "better things aren't possible because where will the money come from?" Isn't possible to engage with seriously. We don't fund our state with gold mines.
- virissimo 3y agoThere absolutely is a tradeoff between defense and civilian spending: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_versus_butter_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_versus_butter_model
- FredPret 3y agoYes we have? There's an ongoing funding crisis for Ukraine's defense, and there are legions of conservatives who are mad about the trillion + spent blowing up Afghanistan + Iraq. Taxation in the US came about to fund a war. Money is in the top-three concerns people have about war; it's right after lives lost and infrastructure destroyed.
- kevingadd 3y agoYou're saying people are mad about war funding. I'm saying the wars and dod get funded every year no matter what. Both things are true.
- derac 3y agoI'm guessing you mean income tax, rather than taxation in general? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_Uni...
- randomname93857 3y agoIf we make corporate tax to e what it was historically normal, and tax the wealthy-wealthies to a reasonable level and close all ridiculous loop-holes, then it can be zero-sum. Or even profit.