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I've rediscovered cryptpad last year. I thought it was (and was looking for) a client-side encrypted etherpad, but was surprised to see they had added spreadshe

by Aachen 3y ago

I've rediscovered cryptpad last year. I thought it was (and was looking for) a client-side encrypted etherpad, but was surprised to see they had added spreadsheets, folders, forms, and everything. It's working towards a full office suite I wouldn't say it's quite there yet, my mom probably should wait a little to try it out, but if you're a bit geeky and looking for open source, live multiplayer spreadsheets or documents to use with other tech-savvy people, this would be the first thing to check out. With Nextcloud or LibreOffice cloud or whatnot, the server can always access your things. That's almost always fine, but if this exists, why not the privacy by default? I love the idea

jszymborski 3y ago
> I wouldn't say it's quite there yet, my mom probably should wait a little to try it out Curious about what features you feel non-technical users might be missing. I've been most successful getting casual, non-technical users to adopt Cryptpad. It's the power users that use add-ons or need more than what WordPad might offer that begin to grumble in my experience.
- jraph 3y ago
  > need more than what WordPad might offer To be noted CryptPad comes with its own fork of OnlyOffice, a complete Office suite. Maybe not as complete as MS Office or LibreOffice though. It's not only simple pads (anymore?).
- Aachen 3y ago
  It's not so much about features as UX and polish. When I wanted to use the forms for registering for a game event, I sent it to a friend to try out and it crashed the browser on their phone (mobile game, so most users are on phones). Apparently the cryptpad owners couldn't reproduce with the same browser but one crash among n=2 didn't bode well enough to use it for hundreds of players We did use it for keeping organisational notes, but finding out how to use the sharing folders system took a little trial and error It's this sort of thing that I want to set the expectations for when sharing it with others. When people go in with a mindset of it being a cool thing with rough edges, and it turns out not to be so rough, that's only more reason to be impressed and stick around. If you go there expecting a fully-fledged Google Docs clone, I think that'll be disappointing and give a feeling of "it's nearly good enough" (and then they leave and forget about it) Anyway that's my expectation on expectations, I'm happy to hear it's currently already in a state so good that you've converted non-techies :D

by Aachen 3y ago

jszymborski 3y ago

> I wouldn't say it's quite there yet, my mom probably should wait a little to try it out Curious about what features you feel non-technical users might be missing. I've been most successful getting casual, non-technical users to adopt Cryptpad. It's the power users that use add-ons or need more than what WordPad might offer that begin to grumble in my experience.

jraph 3y ago
> need more than what WordPad might offer To be noted CryptPad comes with its own fork of OnlyOffice, a complete Office suite. Maybe not as complete as MS Office or LibreOffice though. It's not only simple pads (anymore?).
Aachen 3y ago
It's not so much about features as UX and polish. When I wanted to use the forms for registering for a game event, I sent it to a friend to try out and it crashed the browser on their phone (mobile game, so most users are on phones). Apparently the cryptpad owners couldn't reproduce with the same browser but one crash among n=2 didn't bode well enough to use it for hundreds of players We did use it for keeping organisational notes, but finding out how to use the sharing folders system took a little trial and error It's this sort of thing that I want to set the expectations for when sharing it with others. When people go in with a mindset of it being a cool thing with rough edges, and it turns out not to be so rough, that's only more reason to be impressed and stick around. If you go there expecting a fully-fledged Google Docs clone, I think that'll be disappointing and give a feeling of "it's nearly good enough" (and then they leave and forget about it) Anyway that's my expectation on expectations, I'm happy to hear it's currently already in a state so good that you've converted non-techies :D