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I still don't agree with the "there's nothing to listen to". Even now with a handful of users, I already uploaded some music to my personal library and shared s

I still don't agree with the "there's nothing to listen to". Even now with a handful of users, I already uploaded some music to my personal library and shared some playlists with other contacts. In any case, I do agree that talking with musicians is also important. I just think this is a chicken-and-egg problem, so both sides of the market need to show interest in the model.

pavel_lishin 3y ago
> Even now with a handful of users, I already uploaded some music to my personal library and shared some playlists with other contacts. Your own personal music that you've created? Cool, but you're one person who also happens to be running this project. That's not the basis for a business decision. Someone else's music? That's just sharing songs online, and while I'm fine with people sailing the seas, charging for the privilege doesn't seem right to me.
- rglullis 3y ago
  > Your own personal music that you've created? Noooooooo. I mean music collection. mp3 and flacs that I acquired throughout the years. I can upload it, put it on my online library and share with my friends. They, in turn, can share their collection with me. And no, it is not piracy, because you are not making it publicly available, totally fair use. Can you please take a look at the website to see how it works? Where am I missing you?
  - pavel_lishin 3y ago
    > And no, it is not piracy, because you are not making it publicly available, totally fair use. I don't think that's how that works. If you're sharing a bunch of mp3's of music you've purchased or pirated to people - and especially if you're about to build some way for people to pay you for the privilege - you're going to need legal advice more than you need business advice, i'd wager.
    - rglullis 3y ago
      > and especially if you're about to build some way for people to pay you for the privilege Again: it seems you are conflating two separate things. I'm charging for hosting the files that customers already have, not by giving them access to copyrighted content. It's no different than the now-defunct "music locker" services like Google Music Play and Amazon Music Storage. The "playlist sharing" functionality is only meant to be used by people who are directly connected. If someone puts copyrighted content in a public list, anyone can see, report it and Funkwhale already has provisions for admins to moderate/remove the content.

pavel_lishin 3y ago

> Even now with a handful of users, I already uploaded some music to my personal library and shared some playlists with other contacts. Your own personal music that you've created? Cool, but you're one person who also happens to be running this project. That's not the basis for a business decision. Someone else's music? That's just sharing songs online, and while I'm fine with people sailing the seas, charging for the privilege doesn't seem right to me.

rglullis 3y ago
> Your own personal music that you've created? Noooooooo. I mean music collection. mp3 and flacs that I acquired throughout the years. I can upload it, put it on my online library and share with my friends. They, in turn, can share their collection with me. And no, it is not piracy, because you are not making it publicly available, totally fair use. Can you please take a look at the website to see how it works? Where am I missing you?
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  > And no, it is not piracy, because you are not making it publicly available, totally fair use. I don't think that's how that works. If you're sharing a bunch of mp3's of music you've purchased or pirated to people - and especially if you're about to build some way for people to pay you for the privilege - you're going to need legal advice more than you need business advice, i'd wager.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    > and especially if you're about to build some way for people to pay you for the privilege Again: it seems you are conflating two separate things. I'm charging for hosting the files that customers already have, not by giving them access to copyrighted content. It's no different than the now-defunct "music locker" services like Google Music Play and Amazon Music Storage. The "playlist sharing" functionality is only meant to be used by people who are directly connected. If someone puts copyrighted content in a public list, anyone can see, report it and Funkwhale already has provisions for admins to moderate/remove the content.