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Most of this information is indicated on their website or online spec sheets? Like I said Nvidia themselves indicate whether it’s suitable. And if your still

Most of this information is indicated on their website or online spec sheets? Like I said Nvidia themselves indicate whether it’s suitable. And if your still confused or doubt the accuracy, or don’t want to spend any time reading spec sheets, I imagine the sales channel folks will be able to guarantee it in writing for a fee.

michaelt 3y ago
> Most of this information is indicated on their website or online spec sheets? You'd think so, wouldn't you? But nvidia is not that smart. They have decided that the GPUs should be split over at least three different pages, and those pages should be camouflaged. I can only assume the marketing team are judged based on time spent on site or number of pages viewed, rather than on sales made. When you go to the home page, point to products and click on "NVIDIA RTX / Quadro" you might expect to find the RTX 4090 and some Quadro products. You will in fact find neither - the RTX 4090 is under 'GeForce' and the 'Quadro' brand is no longer used. Maybe on the home page you choose "NVIDIA RTX-Powered AI Workstations" - that'll give you a list of their workstation-suitable cards for ML, right? No, that page contains no products at all. The only option is to Find A Partner which links you to a bunch of partners - several of whom do not in fact sell AI Workstations. Other partners sell AI workstations... without GPUs. As far as HP is concerned, $4000 only gets you the base model workstation, with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB hard disk. If you want GPUs with that, you'll need to call the sales team, who might perhaps deign to sell you one. Or perhaps you're at nvidia's home page, and you're looking for data centre grade GPUs? For that product page, simply choose whether you mean the DGX, EGX, IGX, HGX, MGX or OVX platform? But they make it very easy to find the keynote speech by His Excellency Omar Sultan Al Olama on the latest breakthroughs in AI. He does, in fairness, have a very appropriate surname.
- larodi 3y ago
  The Al Olama joke really made my day. I support what I say in the model lines and assured website. But perhaps only MS and IBM so far know how to do corporate sites…
- izacus 3y ago
  This is such a bizarre rant - you're buying an AI GPU and are ranting be used you need to understand what kind of workloads you need with it? And while also ranting that you won't pay the price of the obvious high end models if you're too lazy about it? What, exactly, is your expectation here? If you want the simple Apple model where you don't need to look at the spec, do the Apple think and pay up for the pricy GPU.
gymbeaux 3y ago
It’s overwhelmingly apparent to me that you haven’t had to seriously consider this problem of which GPU to buy in 2023/2024.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Did you even finish reading my comment? The whole point of the last sentence is that you don’t need to “seriously consider this problem of which GPU to buy”, if your willing to pay more for written guarantees through the sales channel.
  - gymbeaux 3y ago
    I did
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      Sure, then you get the point.

michaelt 3y ago

> Most of this information is indicated on their website or online spec sheets? You'd think so, wouldn't you? But nvidia is not that smart. They have decided that the GPUs should be split over at least three different pages, and those pages should be camouflaged. I can only assume the marketing team are judged based on time spent on site or number of pages viewed, rather than on sales made. When you go to the home page, point to products and click on "NVIDIA RTX / Quadro" you might expect to find the RTX 4090 and some Quadro products. You will in fact find neither - the RTX 4090 is under 'GeForce' and the 'Quadro' brand is no longer used. Maybe on the home page you choose "NVIDIA RTX-Powered AI Workstations" - that'll give you a list of their workstation-suitable cards for ML, right? No, that page contains no products at all. The only option is to Find A Partner which links you to a bunch of partners - several of whom do not in fact sell AI Workstations. Other partners sell AI workstations... without GPUs. As far as HP is concerned, $4000 only gets you the base model workstation, with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB hard disk. If you want GPUs with that, you'll need to call the sales team, who might perhaps deign to sell you one. Or perhaps you're at nvidia's home page, and you're looking for data centre grade GPUs? For that product page, simply choose whether you mean the DGX, EGX, IGX, HGX, MGX or OVX platform? But they make it very easy to find the keynote speech by His Excellency Omar Sultan Al Olama on the latest breakthroughs in AI. He does, in fairness, have a very appropriate surname.

larodi 3y ago
The Al Olama joke really made my day. I support what I say in the model lines and assured website. But perhaps only MS and IBM so far know how to do corporate sites…
izacus 3y ago
This is such a bizarre rant - you're buying an AI GPU and are ranting be used you need to understand what kind of workloads you need with it? And while also ranting that you won't pay the price of the obvious high end models if you're too lazy about it? What, exactly, is your expectation here? If you want the simple Apple model where you don't need to look at the spec, do the Apple think and pay up for the pricy GPU.

gymbeaux 3y ago

It’s overwhelmingly apparent to me that you haven’t had to seriously consider this problem of which GPU to buy in 2023/2024.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
Did you even finish reading my comment? The whole point of the last sentence is that you don’t need to “seriously consider this problem of which GPU to buy”, if your willing to pay more for written guarantees through the sales channel.
- gymbeaux 3y ago
  I did
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Sure, then you get the point.